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daveid wrote:

telys wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 9:25 am Is Through You their longest b-side?

Yes. Some Speculation is 6:35. Through you is 7:02

Although it is the extended version. Presumably a non-extended version will appear at some point, as with The way through the woods. Otherwise you could say Don Juan (Disco mix) was longer.

Not a lot of love on the forum for Party in the Blitz but everybody seems to be gushing over Through you,
which I find disturbing

I think i'm in the minority on this one

Party in the Blitz
9/10
This is seriously good, just far too short.

Through You
1/10
This is seriously bad, and far too long.

Through You is WAY better than Party in the blitz !

Disco. wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 3:13 pm Through You is WAY better than Party in the blitz !

Through You is a really good song but Party in the Blitz is good song too.

Dog wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 2:16 pm

daveid wrote:

telys wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 9:25 am Is Through You their longest b-side?

Yes. Some Speculation is 6:35. Through you is 7:02

Although it is the extended version. Presumably a non-extended version will appear at some point, as with The way through the woods. Otherwise you could say Don Juan (Disco mix) was longer.

Look forward to the standard version ... I find myself loving Through you up till around the 4 minute mark and then I'm reaching for the skip function

Dog wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 2:16 pm

daveid wrote:

telys wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 9:25 am Is Through You their longest b-side?

Yes. Some Speculation is 6:35. Through you is 7:02

Although it is the extended version. Presumably a non-extended version will appear at some point, as with The way through the woods. Otherwise you could say Don Juan (Disco mix) was longer.

Heyho, a difficult one. I'd say that Don Juan (Disco mix) is a remix of a b-side. Whereas Through You (extended mix) is, so far, the name of the b-side. If a non-extended version appears and it's not connected to Loneliness single, well then it's not a b-side. If it appears in some kind of Loneliness bundle, well then we could argue that the shorter version is the b-side.
The Way Through The Woods (short version) wasn't released as a b-side, was it? Only on the Japanese version of Elysium if I remember correctly.
Remember that Fugitive (Richard X remix) was the original version, it only got the remix name to fit onto Fundamentalism.

Through you:

A track that lays its cards out from the start and can't really go anywhere else. It sounds musically redemptive and cathartic, like the final track of a concept album where everything's been resolved. It's too long and its lyrics aren't worthy of the tune.

Party in the Blitz:

A catchy, witty* and wordy song and Neil's raspy vocals suit it perfectly. It's quite unlike their usual style and I can't help superimposing the tune of Dude (Looks like a lady) over it.

*apart from THAT line which is absurdly crass.

daveid wrote: Sun 04 Feb 2024, 6:16 pm Party in the Blitz:

A catchy, witty* and wordy song a

*apart from THAT line which is absurdly crass.

I love that line.

Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

vindaloo

daveid wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:05 pm

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

vindaloo

I see what you did there. I wondered whether it was about Elton (“the violent moods”), but surely it’s not that big a falling out?

daveid wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:05 pm

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

vindaloo

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

I would put good money on it being from the musical - Naked. Seeing ‘right through you’ fits thematically with the emperor’s new clothes - this would explain the extended mix: the standard length being what appears in the musical…

Ghost within this house wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 8:39 pm

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

I would put good money on it being from the musical - Naked. Seeing ‘right through you’ fits thematically with the emperor’s new clothes - this would explain the extended mix: the standard length being what appears in the musical…

Winner!

Ghost within this house wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 8:39 pm

TallThinMan wrote: Wed 07 Feb 2024, 3:01 pm Who do we think ‘Through You’ is about?

I would put good money on it being from the musical - Naked. Seeing ‘right through you’ fits thematically with the emperor’s new clothes - this would explain the extended mix: the standard length being what appears in the musical…

Yeah, sounds plausible. The way through the woods may be a similar case in point as it was part of a putative project that set poetry to synth music.