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New York City Boy.

(we all love Winner, in my house)

Greetings,

I almost said Wedding In Berlin, but then I remembered their massacre of In Private with Elton John. I can't split the two... I can just say I don't want to ever hear either of them again.

I also understand the strong dislike of Electricity and Winner, but in each instance I think it's more about them being elevated above their level to positions of unjustified prominence in the catalogue. If they were b-sides, or previously unreleased tracks on a Further Listening compilation I don't think there'd be anywhere near the hate. Electricity would have been perfectly acceptable as a b-side on Single, for example.

Retro.

Hold on, Dreamland, Give stupidity a chance, Bullet for Narcisus,Casanova in hell, The nigh I fell on love, Odd man out Rèquiem in denim, Love is a bourgeous construct.The survivorsLuna Park, No more ballads, Indefinitive to remain, I cry for us, Legacy, Beautiful periple.

I LOVE Wedding in Berlín, Winner (Happysad mix) andElectricity( one of my favorites)

Love is a bourgeois construct???? One of the best tracks!!!

davidctecno wrote: Sat 06 Jun 2026, 7:33 am Love is a bourgeois construct???? One of the best tracks!!!

A different point of view

So hard
Jealousy
Wedding in Berlin
Dreamland
Saturday night forever
Pazzo!

There a few tracks I do skip now and again but ones I don’t like and won’t listen to ever again in no particular order…

Hold on
Give it a go
Winner
Numb
What keeps mankind alive
Wedding in Berlin
Cricket wife
The Dumpling song
Wings and faith
Hymn
In private ft EJ
Screaming
We’re all criminals now
Gin & jag
Nightlife (track not album)
Baby
Love life
And as a bonus; all of the My Beautiful Laundrette EP apart from Beautiful laundrette

Basically created an entire album
Pet Shop Boys Refuse

Party song

Fascinating to see what turns people off - I would never have expected some of these!

For me, it's Winner - I don't mind the first verse but the rest of it is just so greetings card. The lyrics and the vocals (esp towards the end) are what I think makes it bad - the arrangement is fine - so the HappySad mix that everyone seems to love is no better in my book. "See the world through new eyes every day" is surely the nadir of Neil's otherwise incredible career as a lyricist.

Don't mind Wedding In Berlin at all - the way they use the wedding march is quite pretty to me and the weird, distant way it describes marriage feels very PSB. I like Decide but I've never felt a strong sense that it should have been on the album instead - it's a bit self important with its grand arrangement for a relatively slight song, I think.

Even with Winner or Disco Potential, which I'd probably have said was my least favourite before Winner came out, I find there's something buried in there that I like - there's nothing of theirs I would actively get up and skip in the context of an album.

Ego Music ... an atrocity to my ears

Yes, it's hard to look past something like Wedding in Berlin. There's a fair few b-sides I don't like but that's okay - that's where you can experiment or release something from your vaults. There's no defence for chucking stuff like that on an actual studio album though. See also the likes of:

Metamorphosis
In Denial
The Night I Fell In Love
Beautiful People
Happiness

Was it Worth It.

Ramzy wrote: Sat 06 Jun 2026, 11:42 amDon't mind Wedding In Berlin at all - the way they use the wedding march is quite pretty to me and the weird, distant way it describes marriage feels very PSB.

Wedding in Berlin is great! Never understood the hate for it. It's very funny.

As has been mentioned by me before, Footsteps is not my jam.

I'd take Wedding in Berlin a thousand times over that.

Surprised TSOTAS isn't mentioned but once so far...I love it but I was always given to believe it was almost universally hated.

Wedding in Berlin is an ok track imho. It is funny, but it also celebrates marriage which has been a hetero thing for a long time (as Neil sings: "Don’t matter if they’re straight or gay").

I do think it should not have been an album track though.

Sodom and Gomorrah show is a fantastic track. Especially the Buggles-esque "sun, sex, sin, death and destruction" part