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Posted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 10:59 pm
by adampsb
That's the great thing about them most of the time the music is incredibly upbeat while the music is sad

Re: I want happy PSB songs

Posted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 11:09 pm
by Flaffer
adampsb wrote:
amandote wrote:For the next album I want happy PSB songs.
Their last songs are not very happy... I want songs like "I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing" and "Se a vida e"...
What Happy songs..Was It Worth It is a song I would describe as happy as is I wouldn't Normally do & Liberation but the rest are generally sad as Se A Vida E is about someone who is depressed with low self worth..

Melancholy..Bring it on with the chord of mourning
Was it worth it? I think is quite sad, the I don't know why I never thought I'd fall in love, conjures up the idea of someone who felt themselves unable to love due to being hurt many times and because of something in their past. I sure I read somewhere that the song was a commentary on Aids

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 2:01 am
by minami
nickname wrote:Hum, I think the lyrics are sad but the music is happy. Don't you think so?.
I completely agree!! But I think the language plays a very important role in this discussion... I think when you're English native (concerning to language), you concentrate your attention in lyrics... But when you aren't, you concentrate more in music... It's just my opinion....

And then, sad songs (lyrics) are happy songs (music)... :wink:

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 12:10 pm
by jamie1978
amandote wrote:
jamie1978 wrote:
amandote wrote: "Go West" is super happy
The chord changes may make you smile, but the fact remains that the Pet Shop Boys are quoted as saying that singing Go West in the post-AIDS era makes it sound somewhat hopeless.

So no, 'Go West' isnt super happy at all.

I'd still recommend converting to Westlife, you obviously just dont 'get it'.
If you talk so much about Westlife, you definitely like them. So take your chance and become a Westlife fan today! :lol:
Thank you for countering my points and responding with a reasonable arguement - you are clearly correct in your assumption that the PSB's are all about happy songs.

Or, well, not, as the case actually is.

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 6:01 pm
by Kiran
adampsb wrote:That's the great thing about them most of the time the music is incredibly upbeat while the music is sad
Maybe that's what the original poster meant? Happy tunes you can slit your wrists to.

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 6:24 pm
by Chrispsb
joncool5 wrote:I want depression of the highest order...
dito.

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 8:42 pm
by Flaffer
oh god no, it may mean an album of LIAC

Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 10:06 pm
by Lush
Flaffer wrote:oh god no, it may mean an album of LIAC
The very thought is unbearable, and the album would be unlistenable.

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 9:51 am
by Eldritch
I don't really buy into the whole "sad music makes you sad" ethos. For instance The Cure's Disintegration is one of my fave albums of all time, and albums in general don't get any sadder than that. But still the opening rush of Plainsong always makes me deliriously happy. In the same way happy songs can be so annoying that they'll ruin your mood totally.

It's all about catharsis. Just like watching a classic tragedy can make you feel lifted and happy, a sad song can give you pleasure in a way that' totally at odds with the song's mood. Great art, whether it's pop or opera, will always gladden the heart of the observer.

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 10:11 am
by Joemoz
Eldritch wrote:I don't really buy into the whole "sad music makes you sad" ethos. For instance The Cure's Disintegration is one of my fave albums of all time, and albums in general don't get any sadder than that. But still the opening rush of Plainsong always makes me deliriously happy. In the same way happy songs can be so annoying that they'll ruin your mood totally.

It's all about catharsis. Just like watching a classic tragedy can make you feel lifted and happy, a sad song can give you pleasure in a way that' totally at odds with the song's mood. Great art, whether it's pop or opera, will always gladden the heart of the observer.
I completely agree. I get sad from listening to Britney Spears, but I feel uplifted listening to Morrissey.

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 12:53 pm
by jamie1978
Eldritch wrote:I don't really buy into the whole "sad music makes you sad" ethos. For instance The Cure's Disintegration is one of my fave albums of all time, and albums in general don't get any sadder than that. But still the opening rush of Plainsong always makes me deliriously happy. In the same way happy songs can be so annoying that they'll ruin your mood totally.

It's all about catharsis. Just like watching a classic tragedy can make you feel lifted and happy, a sad song can give you pleasure in a way that' totally at odds with the song's mood. Great art, whether it's pop or opera, will always gladden the heart of the observer.
What a great post. You sum it up perfectly.

Re: I want happy PSB songs

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 1:58 pm
by shamelessbehave
amandote wrote:For the next album I want happy PSB songs.
Their last songs are not very happy... I want songs like "I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing" and "Se a vida e"...
There you have "Very".

Re: I want happy PSB songs

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 3:06 pm
by Very
shamelessbehave wrote:
amandote wrote:For the next album I want happy PSB songs.
Their last songs are not very happy... I want songs like "I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing" and "Se a vida e"...
There you have "Very".
Very is my favorite PSB album ;)

Re: I want happy PSB songs

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 9:56 pm
by adampsb
amandote wrote:
shamelessbehave wrote:
amandote wrote:For the next album I want happy PSB songs.
Their last songs are not very happy... I want songs like "I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing" and "Se a vida e"...
There you have "Very".
Very is my favorite PSB album ;)
But it still isn't cheerful e.g.

Can you Forgive her - depressing man with gay inclinations who wants to be straight tormented by his girlfriend
A diffrent point of view - 2 people in a relationship constantly fighting
dreaming....is about people dying of AIDS
Yesterday..is about insincere people
The THeatre..homeless people
To Speak is A Sin..need i say more

Very is a depressing album.

IN fact they don't have any happy albums..

Re: I want happy PSB songs

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 10:21 pm
by Very
adampsb wrote:
amandote wrote:
shamelessbehave wrote: There you have "Very".
Very is my favorite PSB album ;)
But it still isn't cheerful e.g.

Can you Forgive her - depressing man with gay inclinations who wants to be straight tormented by his girlfriend
A diffrent point of view - 2 people in a relationship constantly fighting
dreaming....is about people dying of AIDS
Yesterday..is about insincere people
The THeatre..homeless people
To Speak is A Sin..need i say more

Very is a depressing album.

IN fact they don't have any happy albums..
come on.. stop it :) music is happy. lyrics is another thing