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Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 5:12 pm
by Aaron
jormis wrote:
Aaron wrote:Should I be ashamed that I never heard of Status Quo?
Well, it just shows that you haven't been in the Army (now or then).
I believe that's true....

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 6:06 pm
by gkboy28
where is oasis????!!!

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 6:09 pm
by Zeus On The Loose
I'm not 100% sure but I think Little 15/Pimpf charted somewhere in the Top-75 as an import.

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 6:48 pm
by Janet Street-Porter
Zeus On The Loose wrote:I just realised how *terrible* the Beatles were. With the exception of Hey Jude, there's precisely nothing on their singles discogrphy that's actually good. Strawberry Fields Forever was great too but only when Candy Flip covered it. Oh, how I wish the Beatles had never happened.
What balderdash - they are in many respects the Sixties equivalent of Neil and Chris; clever lyrics, irresistible melodies and the ability to re-invent themselves par excellence. The first genius pop group.

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 6:59 pm
by One of the crowd
Thats not bad going for Status Quo considering theyve only ever written the one tune! :wink:

Oasis have released 21 singles BTW

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 7:07 pm
by Zeus On The Loose
Janet Street-Porter wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote:I just realised how *terrible* the Beatles were. With the exception of Hey Jude, there's precisely nothing on their singles discogrphy that's actually good. Strawberry Fields Forever was great too but only when Candy Flip covered it. Oh, how I wish the Beatles had never happened.
What balderdash - they are in many respects the Sixties equivalent of Neil and Chris; clever lyrics, irresistible melodies and the ability to re-invent themselves par excellence. The first genius pop group.
What are you on about? They are in many respects the Sixties equivalent of the Spice Girls; generic lyrics, simplistic melodies and army of stylists, image makers, advertisers coming up with gimmicks and publicity stunts and the ability to re-invent themselves par excellence for the few years they lasted before their egos got too big and decided to go solo. The first genius marketing strategy in pop music.

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 7:52 pm
by Janet Street-Porter
How can you possibly say that Strawberry Fields was only great when Candy Flip did it? It was exactly the same song with a baggy dance beat underneath it. I never took you for such a Madchester fan.

Many of The Beatles' best songs weren't even singles; the ones they did release are testimony to their pop greatness. How can a song as beautifully sad as Eleanor Rigby be compared to the fluff of the Spice Girls? :lol:

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 7:56 pm
by Zeus On The Loose
Viva Forever is also beautifully sad and far better.

Candy Flip version was far superior, much in the same way that PSB's Always On My Mind was far superior to the Elvis version. And I don't really see why Beatles were not 'fluff'...

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:05 pm
by DJAMIX
We realized how big the world is when the 1st hit single band in UK has never had a hit single in Brazil. :wink:

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:08 pm
by Janet Street-Porter
I actually like the Candy Flip version but that's only because it is so similar to the original. PSB's version of Always on my mind is uptempo and disco-tinged while Elvis's is a ballad; I actually love both Elvis's and Willie Nelson's versions too but that's immaterial.

The Beatles could certainly be construed as 'fluff' to a degree, particularly some of their early singles but then The Spice Girls would be the fluffiest fluff found on a fluffy rabbit's fluffy little face and the rabbit's name is Alan Freeman. "Mama I love you, Mama I do....."

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:10 pm
by Zeus On The Loose
Whereas 'She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah' was very profound...

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:15 pm
by Janet Street-Porter
Zeus On The Loose wrote:Whereas 'She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah' was very profound...
I have agreed that some of their early singles were bubblegum pop but seeing as they (arguably) invented it, that's not that surprising.

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:20 pm
by thomashenry
Zeus On The Loose wrote:Whereas 'She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah' was very profound...
It is possible to quote a banal line from ANY band or artiste. It proves nothing. ('Precisely nothing', in Neil speak).

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:23 pm
by Zeus On The Loose
Bubblegum was already around in the 50's in America. As for their later tunes, I'm sorry, but they just jumped in the hippy/drugs bandwagon. I don't see what's so different between Strawberry Fileds Forever and Ebeneezer Goode. They both are records gloryfying drug taking because it was fashionable at the time, nothing artistic about that whatsoever.

And what were all the gimmicks, publicity stunts and image make-overs about if not Spice Girls tactics? I maintain, they were by 60's standards much closer to the Spice Girls than to PSB and at a later stage they got closer to a drugged up version of U2.

Posted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 8:29 pm
by adampsb
Janet Street-Porter wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote:I just realised how *terrible* the Beatles were. With the exception of Hey Jude, there's precisely nothing on their singles discogrphy that's actually good. Strawberry Fields Forever was great too but only when Candy Flip covered it. Oh, how I wish the Beatles had never happened.
What balderdash - they are in many respects the Sixties equivalent of Neil and Chris; clever lyrics, irresistible melodies and the ability to re-invent themselves par excellence. The first genius pop group.
More like the first boy band and there was Macca slagging Robbie Williams and Take That this morning and the only difference between them was that Gary Barlow wrote all the songs himself whereas Lennon let Macca write the odd bit here and there