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bongsteve wrote: Thu 13 Jun 2024, 7:31 pm

daveid wrote: Thu 13 Jun 2024, 6:32 pm It's a tough listen but way easier than The night I fell in love which is pure cringe

Musically, good. Lyrically, oof.

Patrick Bateman wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024, 6:41 am Establishment shill made a dame.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c511l0j4l2po

alternativeformat wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024, 11:29 am I still need to post a celebration of Nonetheless as a whole, but on the subject of "A new bohemia", I wanted to celebrate this stanza:

Hot on the heels
of the absolute last chance
I watched them trying out
something new from France
Kamikaze eyes
locked in a trance
Improvising
a wild hypnotic dance

It's a perfectly constructed verse for me, and the scene is perfectly painted for the mind's eye. I'm trying to think of when Neil has ever crafted such visually evocative lines before. Maybe "King of Rome" comes close? I love it. I love this album.

ChrisLove wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024, 10:12 am

alternativeformat wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024, 11:29 am I still need to post a celebration of Nonetheless as a whole, but on the subject of "A new bohemia", I wanted to celebrate this stanza:

Hot on the heels
of the absolute last chance
I watched them trying out
something new from France
Kamikaze eyes
locked in a trance
Improvising
a wild hypnotic dance

It's a perfectly constructed verse for me, and the scene is perfectly painted for the mind's eye. I'm trying to think of when Neil has ever crafted such visually evocative lines before. Maybe "King of Rome" comes close? I love it. I love this album.

yeah that verse is really good but for me the more iconic lyrics starts to be the chorus:

Where have they gone, les Petites Bon-Bons?
Who dances now to their sweet old song?
I wish I lived my life free-and-easier
I need to find a new bohemia

and in the end:
Where are they now?
Where have they gone?

Beautiful to me it becomes as good and memorable like lyrics from let's say I'm Not Scared:
"Tonight the streets are full of actors
I don’t know why
Oh, take these dogs away from me
before they, they bite"

For the best song on the album i voted for Loneliness but now i would change my vote for A new bohemia

bongsteve wrote: Thu 13 Jun 2024, 7:31 pm

daveid wrote: Thu 13 Jun 2024, 6:32 pm It's a tough listen but way easier than The night I fell in love which is pure cringe

Musically, good. Lyrically, oof.

Too Many Shadows wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024, 11:20 am I love this song. I'm glad it's out there as a single (whatever that means in 2024). Hopefully it gathers some interest with passive listeners as no part of this song is of no interest and much of it is of great interest.

MartinWright66 wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024, 5:32 pm Nickname, A New Bohemia is a beautiful song. And, actually, it *is* the kind of song to grab the attention of people outside their fanbase. It's not a "Go West" Hi-NRG song, it's not got a load of synth stabs in it; it's an ageless song that could have originated from many eras and it's different from what "duh generul puhblic fink" PSB are capable of. So, actually, it will grab the attention of those outside the hardcore followers.

They're at the stage of their careers where they can go, "yeah, we're not getting hits anymore - so that's no longer a constraint. Let's release songs that we love - not songs the general public expect."

Nickname wrote: Tue 18 Jun 2024, 3:40 pm

MartinWright66 wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024, 5:32 pm Nickname, A New Bohemia is a beautiful song. And, actually, it *is* the kind of song to grab the attention of people outside their fanbase. It's not a "Go West" Hi-NRG song, it's not got a load of synth stabs in it; it's an ageless song that could have originated from many eras and it's different from what "duh generul puhblic fink" PSB are capable of. So, actually, it will grab the attention of those outside the hardcore followers.

They're at the stage of their careers where they can go, "yeah, we're not getting hits anymore - so that's no longer a constraint. Let's release songs that we love - not songs the general public expect."

Not a bad song, not something amazing either.

vincenzosz wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 6:19 am

Nickname wrote: Tue 18 Jun 2024, 3:40 pm

MartinWright66 wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024, 5:32 pm Nickname, A New Bohemia is a beautiful song. And, actually, it *is* the kind of song to grab the attention of people outside their fanbase. It's not a "Go West" Hi-NRG song, it's not got a load of synth stabs in it; it's an ageless song that could have originated from many eras and it's different from what "duh generul puhblic fink" PSB are capable of. So, actually, it will grab the attention of those outside the hardcore followers.

They're at the stage of their careers where they can go, "yeah, we're not getting hits anymore - so that's no longer a constraint. Let's release songs that we love - not songs the general public expect."

Not a bad song, not something amazing either.

I agree. I like the idea of the song and it’s got a nice melody but I wish they would have pushed the Parisian and 60s sound more. It’s very good, but in the grand scheme of songs I don’t find it as brilliant as others claim it to be. Again, the production on the final track was a let down. Much like the production on the majority of the album.

ChrisLove wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 10:50 am

vincenzosz wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 6:19 am

Nickname wrote: Tue 18 Jun 2024, 3:40 pm

Not a bad song, not something amazing either.

I agree. I like the idea of the song and it’s got a nice melody but I wish they would have pushed the Parisian and 60s sound more. It’s very good, but in the grand scheme of songs I don’t find it as brilliant as others claim it to be. Again, the production on the final track was a let down. Much like the production on the majority of the album.

Nice ideas but i wish the song was a little longer that additional verse from the demo would make this song more varied. Can somebody try to mix that electronic part from the demo to the final version ? We would see how it would sound.

Gabby wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 1:18 pm

ChrisLove wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 10:50 am

vincenzosz wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2024, 6:19 am


I agree. I like the idea of the song and it’s got a nice melody but I wish they would have pushed the Parisian and 60s sound more. It’s very good, but in the grand scheme of songs I don’t find it as brilliant as others claim it to be. Again, the production on the final track was a let down. Much like the production on the majority of the album.

Nice ideas but i wish the song was a little longer that additional verse from the demo would make this song more varied. Can somebody try to mix that electronic part from the demo to the final version ? We would see how it would sound.

Not that I have the means or ability, but surely AI could be fed the original track and the demo and add that verse in to the original version? Maybe someone with good mixing skills though could do a better ( and more thorough) job too...got to be possible.