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oakey wrote: Sat 04 May 2024, 12:48 pm Listened to Hotspot again today after having listened a lot to Nonetheless. Even though the Price albums are a trilogy according to the Boys, in terms of songwriting and look and feel, I consider Electric/Super a pair and Hotspot/Nonetheless too, despite having different producers

Having now listened to Nonetheless for the past week, I would say it's a mix of Hotspot, Behaviour with a side garnish of Release. I could change that view in time..

spacewalker wrote: Sat 04 May 2024, 11:48 am "I want to wake up... with you" - that's a nice twist in the end. Love this song.
Isn't it the only song Johnny Marr has ever remixed in his career?

That mix is really good, I like the female voice with new lyrics. Did he get a writing credit? No, but maybe he deserved to.
IWTWU is one of my favourite PSB tracks although the reference to Tainted Love and Love is Strange I could've done without.

I Want To Wake Up

Like following Fergie as Manager of Manchester Utd, it was always going to be a tough act to follow the highs of It's A Sin, on Actually, but this track does that perfectly for me.

I've loved this song since I first heard it, and still do today. I always thought it would have made a great single.

Shep Pettibone is credited as co-producer, and the track sounds fantastic, from start to finish. The final One and half minutes are ace, with the slow line by line build up of emotion in Neil's voice, until we get the final climatic, 'I want to wake up, wake up, wake up with you, I want to wake up ooh ooh ooh' and then the song ends as it started.

5 minutes of brilliance ! 9/10

telys wrote: Sat 04 May 2024, 2:56 pm

spacewalker wrote: Sat 04 May 2024, 11:48 am "I want to wake up... with you" - that's a nice twist in the end. Love this song.
Isn't it the only song Johnny Marr has ever remixed in his career?

That mix is really good, I like the female voice with new lyrics. Did he get a writing credit? No, but maybe he deserved to.
IWTWU is one of my favourite PSB tracks although the reference to Tainted Love and Love is Strange I could've done without.

Denise Johnson, she was also on Primal Screams records amongst others.

leesmapman wrote: Sat 04 May 2024, 11:39 am Now that the Nonetheless dust has settled, let's talk actually again.

Track 24: I want to wake up

Chronology: Actually, Track 8

My least favourite track from the album, but an interesting track nonetheless. Full of references in the lyrics (Tainted Love and Love is Strange) and musically (New Order's Temptation). I do like Neil's voice on this.

I'm pretty sure the line/question "To fall in love, is is so uncool?" Is a response to the line in New Order's 'Thieves Like Us': "It's called love, and it's so uncool".

Where does it remind you of 'Temptation' - I can't hear any similarity?

TwizzleUK wrote:I'm pretty sure the line/question "To fall in love, is is so uncool?" Is a response to the line in New Order's 'Thieves Like Us': "It's called love, and it's so uncool".

Where does it remind you of 'Temptation' - I can't hear any similarity?

The oo-hoo was inspired by the New Order track. Or am I condusing titles here?

leesmapman wrote: Sun 05 May 2024, 2:18 pm

TwizzleUK wrote:I'm pretty sure the line/question "To fall in love, is is so uncool?" Is a response to the line in New Order's 'Thieves Like Us': "It's called love, and it's so uncool".

Where does it remind you of 'Temptation' - I can't hear any similarity?

The oo-hoo was inspired by the New Order track. Or am I condusing titles here?

Don't recall reading that - but it's possible. I know the synthesiser guitar solo playing during 'Shopping' was inspired by Peter Hook's New Order baselines (it's very similar to what he plays in the chorus of 'The Perfect Kiss').

leesmapman wrote: Sun 05 May 2024, 2:18 pm

TwizzleUK wrote:I'm pretty sure the line/question "To fall in love, is is so uncool?" Is a response to the line in New Order's 'Thieves Like Us': "It's called love, and it's so uncool".

Where does it remind you of 'Temptation' - I can't hear any similarity?

The oo-hoo was inspired by the New Order track. Or am I condusing titles here?

In the FL booklet Neil said oo-hoos are from Everything's Gone Green, but I think he got it wrong because oo-hoos in Everything... are not that prominent and Temptation fits much better. It could be Age of Consent as well.

Worth noting that the version of 'I Want To Wake Up' on the Further Listening reissues has a different vocal ad lib at 4:21 to the original 1987 version. Guess this means there were two slightly different mixdowns of the track made in 1987, and the alternate mixdown was (accidentally?) selected for the reissue.

One of only two tracks I'm aware of on the Further Listening CD1s that used an incorrect version - the other being 'Love Etc.' on Yes (and 'SMASH') which doesn't have the beat drop out at 2:23 that you hear in the original single and 'Yes' releases.

For me, a top 10 PSB song. Later, Being Boring would give “As I listened and the words hit my ears I cried sudden tears” an elevated poignancy.

Track 25: Heart

Chronology: Actually, Track 9

Less than 3 years after the first release of Opportunities reaches 116 in the UK charts, Heart becomes the boys 9th straight top 20 hit, and 4th number 1 single ! Now that's what I call a turnaround !

Always loved this track, and the single mix adds some great additional elements to the song, especially the guitar in it.

Again the 12" (CD) gives you some serious bang for your buck, the Disco Mix, which is a great extension of the single mix, and the fabulous Shep Pettibone Dance Mix, which is just amazing !

The remix 12" that subsequently came out, with the Julian Mendelsohn (Remix) and Shep Pettibone (Dub Mix) for me was the first time I was disappointed by the versions they had released on 12" to that point.

Love the version that they play on the Dreamworld tour.

Just a great pop song (9/10)

Pinhead44 wrote: Sun 26 May 2024, 2:27 pm
Just a great pop song

I agree regarding its greatness.

About 15 seconds from the end of the song the beat stops only to be resuscitated. Lovely stuff. I know it’s going to happen but I enjoy it. Every time.

Loved the video. I vividly remember buying the CD single for some reason... I bought the remix 12" somewhere last year. The remixes are terrible, the CD single is great.

The dub mix is very good.

This single hit the whole PSB package. Lovely sleeve photos, good song and good b side and good versions - dance and disco mix. Even the video was bloody good - not many singles have achieved this perfect slam!

I also loved the remix 12”, substituting Heart with the word Remix with an identical font etc. That was clever branding.