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Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Fri 31 May 2024, 2:43 pm
by Too Many Shadows
"You leave home,” Neil sings, “and you don’t go back”. Many of their songs are tinged with melancholia, this one is steeped in the stuff. A firm favourite with me.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Fri 31 May 2024, 4:44 pm
by leesmapman
I liked the track back then, I love it now. I always mention this song when I talk about the songwriting qualities of our musical heroes.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Fri 31 May 2024, 4:56 pm
by daveid
The most perfect, beautiful closing track of any album by anyone ever. So there
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Fri 31 May 2024, 6:28 pm
by telys
The nr 1 single that never were.
And yes, we've already discussed it. But taking away everything but the facts: had PSB released KC as a charity single in 1987 it would gone to nr 1 in the UK. But it wouldn't have fared so well in other countries.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Fri 31 May 2024, 8:02 pm
by Leonidas
I see KC and ICHH as a pair - I love listening to them back to back. 2 songs that I loved from day one that just get better and better. Maybe Love is the law will be on the same level with KC one day, as a truly great album closer.
There’s no better place to listen to actually than driving around in London.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 01 Jun 2024, 12:09 pm
by Disco.
Simply stunning !
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sun 02 Jun 2024, 9:00 pm
by Pinhead44
King's Cross
All the best album's need a strong closing track, and Actually doesn't disappoint with the glorious King's Cross !
Stephen Hague deserves credit again for some brilliant production work on this, that makes the track sound fresh, even after all these years (9/10)
Album total scores
1. Please 8.2
2. Actually 8.1
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sun 02 Jun 2024, 10:44 pm
by spacewalker
Kings's Cross - "one of our best songs" as Neil put it in recent Rolling Stone interview.
Enough said.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Tue 04 Jun 2024, 8:41 am
by Patrick Bateman
Leonidas wrote: Fri 31 May 2024, 8:02 pm
I see KC and ICHH as a pair - I love listening to them back to back. 2 songs that I loved from day one that just get better and better. Maybe Love is the law will be on the same level with KC one day, as a truly great album closer.
There’s no better place to listen to actually than driving around in London.
Yes, it always plays in my head when I'm at King's Cross Station, although it's very different these days.
And Vince Clarke thinks Actually is crap...

Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Tue 04 Jun 2024, 9:25 am
by Too Many Shadows
Patrick Bateman wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2024, 8:41 am
Leonidas wrote: Fri 31 May 2024, 8:02 pm
I see KC and ICHH as a pair - I love listening to them back to back. 2 songs that I loved from day one that just get better and better. Maybe Love is the law will be on the same level with KC one day, as a truly great album closer.
There’s no better place to listen to actually than driving around in London.
Yes, it always plays in my head when I'm at King's Cross Station, although it's very different these days.
And Vince Clarke thinks Actually is crap...
I'm often in the King's Cross area and always think of the song when there. Big changes since the 80s.
Regarding VC, he mostly looks like he thinks everything's crap. It's as if the poor chap is suffering success. I guess we've already commented on him not giving Depeche Mode one more chance?
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 11:57 am
by Pinhead44
Chronology: Actually, Further listening Track 3
Track 27: You Know Where You Went Wrong
You Know.
B-side to It's A Sin, and another Shep Pettibone collaboration with him credited as co-producer. I often wonder what a full SP produced album would have sounded like, had they done one with him after Actually.
Another great track, and the Rough Mix that appears on the remix 12" also a fine listen.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 1:02 pm
by Too Many Shadows
Ah... another song about people in the shadows and if, when, why, what. Bring it on!
The breadth and quality of their B-sides is astonishing. I wonder how much say the record company have in B-side selection and how much of it is a Neil and Chris decision.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 3:10 pm
by Gabby
PSB b-sides are one of the reasons I'm a fan. They weren't just throwaway tracks, or dull instrumentals, and I found frequently supported or added more depth to the single, in my mind anyway.
Two highly regarded b-sides albums later (with a third surely imminent) is evidence enough of the amount of thought they give to what is essentially now a niche market.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 4:20 pm
by tottenhammattspurs
That could be the title of the third B-Sides compilation:- “niche”.
Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 4:56 pm
by Leonidas
Niche - that’s a great title.