Pet Shop Boys Community

TallThinMan wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 4:15 pm

thomashenry wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 3:09 pmYou are basically right - but the lettering you've used is wrong. In all these songs, the progression ends on the root chord, which is denoted i (as it's minor). So for example in Rent, the chorus ends with F-G-Am, which is VI-V-i, as the song is in A minor. If the song was in F major, then F-G-Am would indeed be I-II-iii (although this would be more unusual chord sequence, as it would include a non diatonic chord... and it wouldn't have the same sense of bringing the musical passage to a close, as it wouldn't be ending on the root)

Thank you, that does make sense to me. So Domino Dancing’s F-G-Em-Am would be VI-V—v-i, right? And by association the same for the chorus of Being Boring, Kings Cross etc. What they once referred to as “The Chord Change” in a Q Magazine interview.

jules wrote: Wed 03 Apr 2024, 7:56 pm

Integralist wrote: Wed 03 Apr 2024, 7:51 pm They've really lost their way with a melody. Yes, the 80s-sound and self-referencing stuff is cute, but the melody is so nothingy and limp. Another dud.

I'm no more enamoured with the b-sides either.

I think petheads have been saying this since the second psb album.

jamie1978 wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 2:53 pm For those stating "this forum is dragged down by a few utterly hysterical, irrational, depressed people shooting everything down" - firstly, you are correct

I recommend YouTube instead. The comments section for each song reflects the wider public far more than this forum does - and the upvoting system ensures popular comments are viewed first

The issue with this forum (and forums in general) is that the tiny minority of terminally online, depressed people without a positive word to say about anything flood the comments and there is no way of downvoting them - so these hyper-minority, excessive pessimistic views become the majority of posts, despite not representing wider opinion at all

there's a reason most forums died in the 00's

Integralist wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 6:14 pm

jules wrote: Wed 03 Apr 2024, 7:56 pm

Integralist wrote: Wed 03 Apr 2024, 7:51 pm They've really lost their way with a melody. Yes, the 80s-sound and self-referencing stuff is cute, but the melody is so nothingy and limp. Another dud.

I'm no more enamoured with the b-sides either.

I think petheads have been saying this since the second psb album.

No doubt they have, but not this Pethead. I've loved their stuff right up until this album. Hotspot was the first sign for me that they're slipping a bit, but these new songs are even worse for me.

Integralist wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 6:26 pm

jamie1978 wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 2:53 pm For those stating "this forum is dragged down by a few utterly hysterical, irrational, depressed people shooting everything down" - firstly, you are correct

I recommend YouTube instead. The comments section for each song reflects the wider public far more than this forum does - and the upvoting system ensures popular comments are viewed first

The issue with this forum (and forums in general) is that the tiny minority of terminally online, depressed people without a positive word to say about anything flood the comments and there is no way of downvoting them - so these hyper-minority, excessive pessimistic views become the majority of posts, despite not representing wider opinion at all

there's a reason most forums died in the 00's

I think it would be really, really weird to have a forum where only "positive" opinions and reviews are allowed. That's actually really disturbing. Is that what you'd prefer?

Integralist wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 6:26 pm

jamie1978 wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 2:53 pm For those stating "this forum is dragged down by a few utterly hysterical, irrational, depressed people shooting everything down" - firstly, you are correct

I recommend YouTube instead. The comments section for each song reflects the wider public far more than this forum does - and the upvoting system ensures popular comments are viewed first

The issue with this forum (and forums in general) is that the tiny minority of terminally online, depressed people without a positive word to say about anything flood the comments and there is no way of downvoting them - so these hyper-minority, excessive pessimistic views become the majority of posts, despite not representing wider opinion at all

there's a reason most forums died in the 00's

I think it would be really, really weird to have a forum where only "positive" opinions and reviews are allowed. That's actually really disturbing. Is that what you'd prefer?

Harry wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 4:24 pm I am finding real beauty in "If Jesus had a sister" on multiple listens today.

"Sense of time" is fast becoming my favourite Pets track in a long time.

minimal wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 2:44 pm I find it rather amusing these days that people are still posting meaningless iTunes charts positions. Makes me feel 15 years younger.

m+

The Pop Kid wrote: Thu 04 Apr 2024, 6:20 pm Hotspot defo felt like the leftovers of the Price era. It's the first album of theirs since Release that I struggled with. Even Elysium had Leaving, Invisible, A Face Like That, Requiem, Memory Of The Future.