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Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 6:05 am
by Patrick Bateman
s t e p h a n o wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10), and even surpassed the chart peak (#6) of the PSB Comic Relief song when PSB were closer to their artistic/commercial peak. How odd. Now, the current PSB song is struggling to hold onto top 20 status in its first week after shedloads of publicity and money pumped into it.
Someone on here once said that Erasure were trying to ruin PSB's big day by releasing their GH in the same month, but in fact, Erasure peaked higher than PSB's initial number (meaning they bettered more bands at that given time, regardless of sales), and a Vince Clarke song ended up upstaging everyone in the end. Simply put: wow. Who would have thought?
YES, A VINCE CLARKE SONG FRONTED BY FIVE HOT GIRLS IN THEIR UNDERWEAR, BEING PLAYED ON RADIO 1.....FOR CHARITY. Even if it was written by Joseph Fritzl, it would still be at number two.
Total Pop! was comfortably outsold by a six-year old PSB album. Andy is now more famous for his baking than his music. Yes *will* be a top five album.
s t e p h a n o, the time for you to politely fold your leotard under your arm, make your excuses and leave is here.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 6:28 am
by tuff enuff
Patrick Bateman wrote:s t e p h a n o wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10), and even surpassed the chart peak (#6) of the PSB Comic Relief song when PSB were closer to their artistic/commercial peak. How odd. Now, the current PSB song is struggling to hold onto top 20 status in its first week after shedloads of publicity and money pumped into it.
Someone on here once said that Erasure were trying to ruin PSB's big day by releasing their GH in the same month, but in fact, Erasure peaked higher than PSB's initial number (meaning they bettered more bands at that given time, regardless of sales), and a Vince Clarke song ended up upstaging everyone in the end. Simply put: wow. Who would have thought?
YES, A VINCE CLARKE SONG FRONTED BY FIVE HOT GIRLS IN THEIR UNDERWEAR, BEING PLAYED ON RADIO 1.....FOR CHARITY. Even if it was written by Joseph Fritzl, it would still be at number two.
Total Pop! was comfortably outsold by a six-year old PSB album. Andy is now more famous for his baking than his music. Yes *will* be a top five album.
s t e p h a n o, the time for you to politely fold your leotard under your arm, make your excuses and leave is here.
Yeah right, like Loving Kind was fronted by 4 ugly and unknown fat blokes

. Think Bateman before you write something, it doesn't hurt. LOL at your Fritzl mention though

Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 7:15 am
by pulse
tuff enuff wrote:Patrick Bateman wrote:s t e p h a n o wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10), and even surpassed the chart peak (#6) of the PSB Comic Relief song when PSB were closer to their artistic/commercial peak. How odd. Now, the current PSB song is struggling to hold onto top 20 status in its first week after shedloads of publicity and money pumped into it.
Someone on here once said that Erasure were trying to ruin PSB's big day by releasing their GH in the same month, but in fact, Erasure peaked higher than PSB's initial number (meaning they bettered more bands at that given time, regardless of sales), and a Vince Clarke song ended up upstaging everyone in the end. Simply put: wow. Who would have thought?
YES, A VINCE CLARKE SONG FRONTED BY FIVE HOT GIRLS IN THEIR UNDERWEAR, BEING PLAYED ON RADIO 1.....FOR CHARITY. Even if it was written by Joseph Fritzl, it would still be at number two.
Total Pop! was comfortably outsold by a six-year old PSB album. Andy is now more famous for his baking than his music. Yes *will* be a top five album.
s t e p h a n o, the time for you to politely fold your leotard under your arm, make your excuses and leave is here.
Yeah right, like Loving Kind was fronted by 4 ugly and unknown fat blokes

. Think Bateman before you write something, it doesn't hurt. LOL at your Fritzl mention though

LOL!!!
I actually believe that if Erasure were to get a Brit and had the same publicity month as PSB just did, Total Pop! would sell even better, seeing as Erasure are better songwriters and performers. I still love the PSB, though, so leotard remains intact.

Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 7:23 am
by Frequency
Joseph Fritzl doing I Just Can't Get Enough would have been a number one hit. He sort of trumps five hot girls in their underwear.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 10:02 am
by Patrick Bateman
tuff enuff wrote:Yeah right, like Loving Kind was fronted by 4 ugly and unknown fat blokes

For me, it may as well have been. I don't go much for Oompah Loompahs.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 10:23 am
by Patrick Bateman
Frequency wrote:Joseph Fritzl doing I Just Can't Get Enough would have been a number one hit. He sort of trumps five hot girls in their underwear.
He'd have insisted on covering Master and Servant though.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:11 am
by Undertaker
Pop40 is number 84 in the album charts

Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 1:24 pm
by Frequency
Patrick Bateman wrote:Frequency wrote:Joseph Fritzl doing I Just Can't Get Enough would have been a number one hit. He sort of trumps five hot girls in their underwear.
He'd have insisted on covering Master and Servant though.
It could be a double a-side. I imagine his stylist insisting on him wearing an eye patch to give him an edge. In fact he could easily slip into the Sparks line-up and stand behind the keyboard looking angsty and miserable should their keyboard player retire.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 8:55 pm
by Undertaker
pulse wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10), and even surpassed the chart peak (#6) of the PSB Comic Relief song when PSB were closer to their artistic/commercial peak. How odd. Now, the current PSB song is struggling to hold onto top 20 status in its first week after shedloads of publicity and money pumped into it.
Someone on here once said that Erasure were trying to ruin PSB's big day by releasing their GH in the same month, but in fact, Erasure peaked higher than PSB's initial number (meaning they bettered more bands at that given time, regardless of sales), and a Vince Clarke song ended up upstaging everyone in the end. Simply put: wow. Who would have thought?
And this is your argument?

Talk about running out of idea's.
The Loving Kind actually sold near on 100,000 units. Which for a 2nd single, is very good. It wasn't 29 pence either, unlike The Saturdays was at Amazon. More importantly, since the release of The Loving Kind, it helped shift a further 210,000 copies of their album 'Out Of Control'. Out of interest, could you please tell us how many albums 'I Just Can't Get Enough' has shifted for Depeche mode and Erasure, since it was re-released a few weeks ago?

Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 10:09 pm
by patrick
pulse wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10)
The really hilarious thing is how badly you have to distort reality to maintain your arguments, which wind up being paper houses entirely devoid of context. Just Can't Get Enough sold thanks to girls in their underwear as a novelty single for charity. The Loving Kind also got a boost thanks to girls but unlike Just Can't Get Enough it had already been featured on a hit album. Everyone who wanted it probably already had it and yet it still landed in the Top 10 and helped shift more than a quarter of a million units between single and album. Result, as they say.
All of this proves three things, none of which should be surprising:
• A wet fart will sell a charity record, because
it's for charity.
• Videos with hot girls sell records.
• Pet Shop Boys are writing Top 10 hits
today. Now obviously the distance between the second point and two men in their 50s will ensure a similar distance in chart placing, but if we're talking about something written now vs something written 30 years ago it's obvious who still "has it" if we're pretending the songwriting has any relevance to the chart placings.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 10:30 pm
by tuff enuff
Undertaker wrote:... Out of interest, could you please tell us how many albums 'I Just Can't Get Enough' has shifted for Depeche mode and Erasure, since it was re-released a few weeks ago?

Now it is you talking bolocks and one has to ask: how many albums " Loving Kind" actually has shifted for PSB? Again you twist the facts to favour the PSB. There's no doubt that both IJCGE and LK sold loads because of the birds fronting it.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 10:42 pm
by tuff enuff
patrick wrote:pulse wrote:I just find it odd that a song written by Vince Clarke almost 30 years ago made it to #2 in the charts within one month or so of a song written by PSB (which struggled to reach #10)
The really hilarious thing is how badly you have to distort reality to maintain your arguments, which wind up being paper houses entirely devoid of context. Just Can't Get Enough sold thanks to girls in their underwear as a novelty single for charity. The Loving Kind also got a boost thanks to girls but unlike Just Can't Get Enough it had already been featured on a hit album. Everyone who wanted it probably already had it and yet it still landed in the Top 10 and helped shift more than a quarter of a million units between single and album. Result, as they say.
All of this proves three things, none of which should be surprising:
• A wet fart will sell a charity record, because
it's for charity.
• Videos with hot girls sell records.
• Pet Shop Boys are writing Top 10 hits
today. Now obviously the distance between the second point and two men in their 50s will ensure a similar distance in chart placing, but if we're talking about something written now vs something written 30 years ago it's obvious who still "has it" if we're pretending the songwriting has any relevance to the chart placings.
Are you really so naive or do you play the fool? First, Pet Shop Boys are writing top 10 hits for
others, and if it's correct what the chart guru Undertaker says here about 100000 sales fo LK, do you believe PSB would sell as much of the same song released as PSB? No, it would sell exactly how Love etc does. Second, there's no differance to when a song has been written when it's fronted by a successfull hot girls group.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:01 pm
by patrick
tuff enuff wrote:Are you really so naive or do you play the fool? First, Pet Shop Boys are writing top 10 hits for others, and if it's correct what the chart guru Undertaker says here about 100000 sales fo LK, do you believe PSB would sell as much of the same song released as PSB? No, it would sell exactly how Love etc does. Second, there's no differance to when a song has been written when it's fronted by a successfull hot girls group.
Why don't you come back after you learn how to read, because you're not actually disagreeing with anything I wrote.
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:30 pm
by Undertaker
tuff enuff wrote:Undertaker wrote:... Out of interest, could you please tell us how many albums 'I Just Can't Get Enough' has shifted for Depeche mode and Erasure, since it was re-released a few weeks ago?

Now it is you talking bolocks and one has to ask: how many albums " Loving Kind" actually has shifted for PSB? Again you twist the facts to favour the PSB. There's no doubt that both IJCGE and LK sold loads because of the birds fronting it.
What PSB album did 'The Loving Kind' appear on? PSB wrote it for GA. It helped sell a further 200,000+ albums. Awesome achievement.
Just to make you happy, i'll ask a different question ;- How many albums has Vince helped to shift for The Saturdays?

You wont know because you probably wont even read the question (you are good at that, like Patrick pointed out) so i'll help you out. The answer is 6,000
Each time one of you come on here, beit Wynken, Blynken or Nod, you get 'owned'. Still, it's quite funny seeing you grasp at straws like this but also a little bit sad, witnessing everyone put you in your places
(The worned 'owned' is courtesy of Syncratic)
Re: CENTRAL ERASURE TOPICS
Posted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:37 pm
by tuff enuff
patrick wrote: Why don't you come back after you learn how to read, because you're not actually disagreeing with anything I wrote.
I've learnt my lesson & I'm back.
patrick wrote: Pet Shop Boys are writing Top 10 hits today..... but if we're talking about something written now vs something written 30 years ago it's obvious who still "has it" if we're pretending the songwriting has any relevance to the chart placings.
Now it's your turn, come back after you learn that writing a song now or 30 years ago and making it a hit for a already successful hot chicks group has nothing to do with
having it . And no, the songwriting has not any relevance to the chart placing, hence Crazy Frog going to number 1.