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#61 Post by Minimalizm »

Firthy2002 wrote:Was it any good this year? I was at the Girls Aloud concert in Manchester so wasn't watching this year (obviously!)
Lucky you! I was forced at gunpoint to watch it (courtesy of my wife) and I wasted three invaluable hours of my life which I will never be able to get back :mrgreen:

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Minimalizm wrote:
United Kingdom's (not "England's" I learnt my lesson well :mrgreen:) efforts may be due to their disastrous rankings since circa 1998? 1999? and the nul points in 2003 did not help things, did it? UK enjoys a continuing position as the second biggest source of international successful pop music acts after the United States but its Eurovision record track since late 1990s is strikingly poor. I think it is turning into something of a national pride.

And hiring a famous composer and lyricist, and asking them to write a song fit for Eurovision is not the most industrious effort for a contest but rather a cheap shortcut to success (and Turkey, my home country, does this, too and the results except for Sertap were always ho hum, and the same may be said more or less for France). I would prefer young talents to strive for participating in the contest with quite nice original songs, shows etc...This I would call an "effort" and it may be one of the reasons Easterners started to dominate the contest for the last few years.
LMAO! Are you upset because Turkey has only won the Eurovision once? xD While The United Kingdom has won 5 times coming second place 15 times :mrgreen:
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#63 Post by No Muscle Mary »

I thought the standard was quite high this year. Although block voting did knock out some of the better songs from the semi-finals.
I think Ireland would be happy to never again win - I don't think we could afford to stage it!
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#64 Post by Corina »

Elena in London - live. Beautiful lyrics in Romanian this time around.
Graham Norton definitely wasn`t there :)

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PlayBeyond wrote:
Minimalizm wrote:
United Kingdom's (not "England's" I learnt my lesson well :mrgreen:) efforts may be due to their disastrous rankings since circa 1998? 1999? and the nul points in 2003 did not help things, did it? UK enjoys a continuing position as the second biggest source of international successful pop music acts after the United States but its Eurovision record track since late 1990s is strikingly poor. I think it is turning into something of a national pride.

And hiring a famous composer and lyricist, and asking them to write a song fit for Eurovision is not the most industrious effort for a contest but rather a cheap shortcut to success (and Turkey, my home country, does this, too and the results except for Sertap were always ho hum, and the same may be said more or less for France). I would prefer young talents to strive for participating in the contest with quite nice original songs, shows etc...This I would call an "effort" and it may be one of the reasons Easterners started to dominate the contest for the last few years.
LMAO! Are you upset because Turkey has only won the Eurovision once? xD While The United Kingdom has won 5 times coming second place 15 times :mrgreen:
I wouldn't give any damn if Turkey had had never won as this song contest has sucked since mid-80s.

And I am just pointing out some fact about UK, which is well covered in an entry in Wikipedia, which you can visit at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... ng_Contest

I am not demaining anything about UK and all that; it is just a FACT... you can read it in the article. Up until 1998 UK had always found a place in top ten; thereafter it sure is a disaster. I just offered the idea that this ten year low-ranking has probably led BBC to give a more serious consideration to the contest.

And if it will make you more happier and merrier, I can safely say that Turkey had hit zero point once or twice (or even more than twice) in the past and this doesn't "upset" me in the least. If the national pride revolves around such a lousy contest, so let it be.

If Greek Cypriots stop giving 12 points to Greece, and vice versa, if Turkey stops giving 12 points to Azerbaijan or Bosnia Herzegovina and vice versa, if Scandinavian countries, the Baltic countries, the Balkan countries etc do the same, then the voting results may be more fair and the contest will at least have some merit.

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#66 Post by Minimalizm »

Norwegian song is selling quite good in iTunes....Number 7 in UK and number one in a couple of European countries (Belgium, Norway, Denmark etc).

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Minimalizm wrote:Norwegian song is selling quite good in iTunes....Number 7 in UK and number one in a couple of European countries (Belgium, Norway, Denmark etc).

see, I told you so... 8)

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#68 Post by Parkol »

UK should never perfrom on Eurovision.
UK has different status. it's for countries who want to be so great as Pet Shop Boys or U2 or Beatles or... Pink Floyd.
Look, England never send depech mode or Coldplay, Robbie or Oasis, because eurovision is big shit.
it's remaning for UK, that... look we write our songs and they are cool too as yours...

I can say that no one can beat UK in music now and for last 40 years, for sure.
Yes, Norway has Royksopp and A-ha.
Finland... has...hmmm Boom funk Mcs or smth like that
France has Farmer and Daft Punk
Italy has Ramazotti and Celentano.
Germany... they have probably something... Snap... or i don't know...
Sweden... army of lovers.
That's all.
All these countries need to be noticed including our Russian f...ing the worst music, of course, but no UK.
Uk music industry bit all of them and they do not need to show their music power on this second best competition.

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#69 Post by Minimalizm »

Germany has Scorpions, Modern Talking, Kraftwerk, Rammstein, Boney M, Faust and many more...

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markus wrote:
Minimalizm wrote:Norwegian song is selling quite good in iTunes....Number 7 in UK and number one in a couple of European countries (Belgium, Norway, Denmark etc).

see, I told you so... 8)
Good luck for him. Hope he goes beyond one-hit wonder status :)

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Parkol wrote:UK should never perfrom on Eurovision.
UK has different status. it's for countries who want to be so great as Pet Shop Boys or U2 or Beatles or... Pink Floyd.
Look, England never send depech mode or Coldplay, Robbie or Oasis, because eurovision is big shit.
it's remaning for UK, that... look we write our songs and they are cool too as yours...

I can say that no one can beat UK in music now and for last 40 years, for sure.
Yes, Norway has Royksopp and A-ha.
Finland... has...hmmm Boom funk Mcs or smth like that
France has Farmer and Daft Punk
Italy has Ramazotti and Celentano.
Germany... they have probably something... Snap... or i don't know...
Sweden... army of lovers.
That's all.
All these countries need to be noticed including our Russian f...ing the worst music, of course, but no UK.
Uk music industry bit all of them and they do not need to show their music power on this second best competition.
Wow, you seem to take Eurovision more seriously than I do. It's just harmless fun entertaiment once a year, not a way to measure which country is superior. Many countries use songwriters and artists from abroad anyway so it doesn't really tell that much who wins...

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#72 Post by Parkol »

Minimalizm wrote:Kraftwerk
Yes, sorry they are really cool!!! But other artists are..., sorry, they are only for East Europe and Germany...
no one take them sirious, really.
Russian music industry is worse than German or Sweden, it's 100% truth but 20 years ago we had great composers, now everything is changed.

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#73 Post by Dipso »

Britain benefits from political voting too, to be honest - Ireland, Cyprus and Malta nearly always rate the UK entrant highly.
Prick up your ears.

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Minimalizm wrote:
PlayBeyond wrote:
Minimalizm wrote:
United Kingdom's (not "England's" I learnt my lesson well :mrgreen:) efforts may be due to their disastrous rankings since circa 1998? 1999? and the nul points in 2003 did not help things, did it? UK enjoys a continuing position as the second biggest source of international successful pop music acts after the United States but its Eurovision record track since late 1990s is strikingly poor. I think it is turning into something of a national pride.

And hiring a famous composer and lyricist, and asking them to write a song fit for Eurovision is not the most industrious effort for a contest but rather a cheap shortcut to success (and Turkey, my home country, does this, too and the results except for Sertap were always ho hum, and the same may be said more or less for France). I would prefer young talents to strive for participating in the contest with quite nice original songs, shows etc...This I would call an "effort" and it may be one of the reasons Easterners started to dominate the contest for the last few years.
LMAO! Are you upset because Turkey has only won the Eurovision once? xD While The United Kingdom has won 5 times coming second place 15 times :mrgreen:
I wouldn't give any damn if Turkey had had never won as this song contest has sucked since mid-80s.

And I am just pointing out some fact about UK, which is well covered in an entry in Wikipedia, which you can visit at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... ng_Contest

I am not demaining anything about UK and all that; it is just a FACT... you can read it in the article. Up until 1998 UK had always found a place in top ten; thereafter it sure is a disaster. I just offered the idea that this ten year low-ranking has probably led BBC to give a more serious consideration to the contest.

And if it will make you more happier and merrier, I can safely say that Turkey had hit zero point once or twice (or even more than twice) in the past and this doesn't "upset" me in the least. If the national pride revolves around such a lousy contest, so let it be.

If Greek Cypriots stop giving 12 points to Greece, and vice versa, if Turkey stops giving 12 points to Azerbaijan or Bosnia Herzegovina and vice versa, if Scandinavian countries, the Baltic countries, the Balkan countries etc do the same, then the voting results may be more fair and the contest will at least have some merit.
lol :boo:
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#75 Post by Minimalizm »

[quote="PlayBeyond

lol :boo:[/quote]

Did I hurt your pride or some other delicate part? :mrgreen:

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