Pet Shop Boys Community

g_m wrote: Tue 14 Apr 2026, 4:57 pm

Whosematchesarethose wrote: Tue 14 Apr 2026, 3:55 pm My money is on:
1, third b-side collection out later this year, following alternative and format, potentially called Obscure.
2, no live album.
3, a further 5 night run in Berlin/Paris/Copenhagen the costs detailed above and the time involved in developing the show means they will have to extend it to break even, they also clearly really enjoyed it. We should recognise that whilst we all loved it there is not mass appeal (I have been to lots of Dreamworld shows and the crowd goes flat outside of the big hits) but a further small venue run would be brilliant.

They've spent time and money programming and rehearsing 35 songs for Obscure. There's no way it will be limited to just London. Berlin and NYC would be safe bets.

TwizzleUK wrote: Tue 14 Apr 2026, 8:28 pm

g_m wrote: Tue 14 Apr 2026, 4:57 pm

Whosematchesarethose wrote: Tue 14 Apr 2026, 3:55 pm My money is on:
1, third b-side collection out later this year, following alternative and format, potentially called Obscure.
2, no live album.
3, a further 5 night run in Berlin/Paris/Copenhagen the costs detailed above and the time involved in developing the show means they will have to extend it to break even, they also clearly really enjoyed it. We should recognise that whilst we all loved it there is not mass appeal (I have been to lots of Dreamworld shows and the crowd goes flat outside of the big hits) but a further small venue run would be brilliant.

They've spent time and money programming and rehearsing 35 songs for Obscure. There's no way it will be limited to just London. Berlin and NYC would be safe bets.

Maybe Dreamworld profits funded the Obscure preparations. Given they used the in house Electric Ballroom lights (I assume), the main costs would've been Pete Gledhall's time and rehearsals. Wonder if they managed to make a profit just on the 5 nights of Obscure ticket sales?

I doubt the next B-sides collection will be called Obscure, as it would be confusing after all this promotion for this specific tour.

markreed wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 1:04 pmGross ticket sales for the Electric, at 1,500 x 100 x 5 would be around £750k. The costs of rehearsals, staging and similar would not be anywhere near that. Add in the merch - those posters cost much less than £20 to make, T's etc., - the band would make a very good profit on 5 shows alone.

eastendboy wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 9:37 am Maybe Chris and Neil are thinking we’ve all spent enough over the last few weeks and it’s possible there won’t be anything released until the autumn. It’s possible we could see tracks with Johnny Marr released with proceeds going to War Child. Hopefully they are both resting after a week of gigs and Neil might have a sore throat after all that singing.


I’ve emailed Angela several times over the years with suggestions and I think I will later asking about if we will see anything later this year. I guess there is some merch left over and it’s possible they will try and flog these at remaining concerts this year before putting these online.


Personally it was great to see them both enjoying the obscure shows and I’m sure there’s a demand for other countries and venues and maybe the merch will be saved for then?


After 40 years there is still a massive demand and hopefully they’ve got energy to carry on for as long as they want to and each time I see them perform I think it will be the last time and I’m pleasantly surprised when new dates are released and I hear things about a new album.

NotInvisible wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 4:08 pm

markreed wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 1:04 pmGross ticket sales for the Electric, at 1,500 x 100 x 5 would be around £750k. The costs of rehearsals, staging and similar would not be anywhere near that. Add in the merch - those posters cost much less than £20 to make, T's etc., - the band would make a very good profit on 5 shows alone.

I wouldn't be so sure. We're looking at around £600k gross in ticket sales (don't forget Wednesday was donated to War Child). You've got the venue rental, the equipment rental, the cost of programming the lights and all the songs, the cost of rehearsal time for 35 tracks capable of being hot swapped on the day, the cost of the crew (including rehearsals) etc. It adds up pretty quickly. If this was a 'very good profit' we'd see shows like this all the time.

markreed wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 5:03 pmIf they only did things for a 'very good profit', they'd be constantly touring the Album-In-Full and Butlins shows they get offered several times a year. I reckon with PG / crew programming the 35 songs in off days as per his instagram and working up roughs at soundchecks, we'd be looking at 10 days actual rehearsal at most, with no video or staging component, and they likely own their equipment and studio - and it's probably the Dreamworld set up - it's only lights (which is cheap as chips), venue hire (not likely to top £10k/night), and say 500 shirts a night (£25-50 profit per item - lets say £15k/night), 300 books (£5 profit per 100 lyrics, £15 per Volume, let's say £4k/night), 100 posters (£15 profit per poster so £1.5k/night), + £600k ticket sales, we're looking at gross of £720ish k over the 5 nights on a £200k/max outlay in terms of costs in my opinion.

NotInvisible wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 5:28 pm

markreed wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 5:03 pmIf they only did things for a 'very good profit', they'd be constantly touring the Album-In-Full and Butlins shows they get offered several times a year. I reckon with PG / crew programming the 35 songs in off days as per his instagram and working up roughs at soundchecks, we'd be looking at 10 days actual rehearsal at most, with no video or staging component, and they likely own their equipment and studio - and it's probably the Dreamworld set up - it's only lights (which is cheap as chips), venue hire (not likely to top £10k/night), and say 500 shirts a night (£25-50 profit per item - lets say £15k/night), 300 books (£5 profit per 100 lyrics, £15 per Volume, let's say £4k/night), 100 posters (£15 profit per poster so £1.5k/night), + £600k ticket sales, we're looking at gross of £720ish k over the 5 nights on a £200k/max outlay in terms of costs in my opinion.

Nah. For one thing, you've got a drummer and a keyboardist learning 35 songs they've never played (and probably never heard before). There's more than 10 rehearsal days there for a start.

markreed wrote: Wed 15 Apr 2026, 9:24 pmAre you genuinely suggesting they haven't practised the songs thoroughly before the first full band rehearsal?