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Posted: Tue 16 May 2006, 6:34 pm
by Jareth
Padster wrote:I think you are all reading far too much into this. It's a great track, great lyrics and can be interpreted in several different ways.
Yes they can, but I think the plane crash at the end makes it clear what it's about.
I don't have a problem with that though.
Someone I know thought I'm With Stupid was about a woman who's boyfriend beats her!
Posted: Tue 16 May 2006, 6:38 pm
by Padster
And I want a dog was about looking for a prostitute around kings cross !!
Posted: Tue 16 May 2006, 6:43 pm
by patrick
I don't understand anti-intellectualism.
Posted: Tue 16 May 2006, 7:19 pm
by ArseSpanker
patrick wrote:I don't understand anti-intellectualism.
Speaking as anti-intellectualism personified, I'm afraid this statement is just a little too clever to be accepted.
Please edit.
Posted: Wed 17 May 2006, 10:42 pm
by stew
it is very daring but at the same time he isnt agreeing with them but just sining as they think of it!
after all they are people - fu('ed up but they are people!
Posted: Thu 18 May 2006, 6:18 pm
by CroMagnon
Great song, great lyric. It gets me right in the gut, especially the "Clean, and prepared to be led" line. Neil does an unbelievable job of bringing out the absolute futility of the actions that the singer is about to take part in, without resorting to cliche or judgemental preaching. I don't believe that any other lyricist (or vocalist, for that matter) could have carried it off in the way that he does.
I think if PSB were "brave" enough to put this onto Fundamentalism, they should have placed it onto Fundamental itself; I can imagine a fantastic end to the album that goes Fugiitve-ILTR-Integral; almost three different sides of the same scenario and the governmental reaction to it.
Posted: Sat 20 May 2006, 6:50 pm
by Vicki
Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
Posted: Sun 21 May 2006, 4:13 pm
by E-Mail Vampire
Vicki wrote:Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
What I was thinking
Posted: Mon 22 May 2006, 4:11 pm
by profile790
It's controversial, but it also makes people think. It's also the best produced PSB-track ever, sounding very fresh. It has HIT written all over it. Therefore I think it should be a single.
Posted: Mon 22 May 2006, 11:15 pm
by jmh
E-Mail Vampire wrote:Vicki wrote:Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
What I was thinking
that hadn't occured to me, actually. however, i think the plane sound effects at the start and end of the song leave it open to another interpretation. which is the point isn't it; until neil confirms either way, we'll never know, and can speculate with varying degrees of accuracy.
but nonetheless, its a classic psb track, the sort of thing only they could pull off, and would've worked well as the penultimate track on fundamental - with integral last - which would've been very political.
Posted: Tue 23 May 2006, 7:10 am
by diana
Vicki wrote:Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
Which boys?
Posted: Tue 23 May 2006, 7:23 am
by glennjridge
2 teens were executed for being gay in Iran.
there is a thread in the offtopic section.
Posted: Tue 23 May 2006, 7:23 am
by Lleonard Pler
Vicki wrote:Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
It would be a beautiful interpretation. But the references to fight, power, and the two planes samples wouldn't make much sense then.
Posted: Tue 23 May 2006, 11:17 am
by !
glennjridge wrote:2 teens were executed for being gay in Iran.
there is a thread in the offtopic section.
diana wrote:Which boys?
The album is dedicated to them.
Posted: Tue 23 May 2006, 11:47 am
by joeythecat
Vicki wrote:Maybe it's about the two boys who were death sentenced and who Fundamental is dedicated to.
That makes the most sense... I haven't heard the song, so who knows. Perhaps it is a commentary on homoeroticism and martyrdom.