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CO2 in a planet's atmosphere traps a proportion of solar radiation.
On Earth 30% of solar radiation iis reflected and 70% trapped by CO2.

Because of man made CO2, the amount of radiation being trapped is increasing
and so is the temperature of the Earth.

If we completely stop producing CO2 and Methane, it still takes a long time for
the greenhouse gases to disperse so the temperature would continue to rise in this time.
So we have locked in fairly serious damage to the Earth's environment all ready.

At the moment, production of man made CO2 is not being stopped or even slowed.
It is increasing.

As for this being natural, no one who looks at this graph would think it is natural.
Please, study the graph. The X-axis shows time over hundreds of thousands of years.
It shows several ice ages and gives an idea of what is natural and the long
period of time for change to happen naturally : 10s of thousands of years.
The Y-axis shows CO2 levels at those time. Over on the right is what mankind is doing.
Notice the scale in parts per million and consider the time frame.

By the way, the graph, like much GW data is too conservative. PPM count is now over 400.

HELLLLLOOOOO! We all EXHALE CO2! All mammals exhale CO2! Methane i.e. shit has ALWAYS been around. Only a socialist liar can come up with the idea it's bad. data. And what you just said is just junk science. Your deeds speak more than your words. As I predicted, here's the bill presented to EU by unelected, Maoist EU-commissioner Barroso:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.j ... new223.xml

Flaffer wrote:miss, miss, gregf's being horrible and stuck his tongue out at me

Oooh, the flirt....

Alig is right- we all exhale CO2, so any talk of regulations on earth-raping industry and the trillions of times-more-than-him-farting-methane autos, whose oil ties us to despotic regimes and crippling fuel costs, is just filthy socialist lies.

Meanwhile the NYTimes has a front cover story on the freaking astronomical amounts of mercury found in the tuna sushi (maguro) in twenty of the poshest sushi places in NYC. It's a scandal.

POLLUTION, people. Deniers like to twist the argument into CO2 and minutiae, but it's undeniable that we spew toxic waste everywhere, species die, and we're the worse for it.

Don't get caught up in semantic wrangling with idiots. Arguing is all they have, because standing up for Industry's alleged right to befoul the planet without restriction would be laughable if it weren't criminal.

Only atheists and esp. socialists could ever believe that nature could be destroyed by
man . It takes a lot of atheism paired with ignorance to believe that humans can actually destroy nature with something as natural as CO2 or methane! Nature doesn't give a f*** about us! But it's a great excuse for EU-bureaucrat socialists to expand government and control people. Don't you know that this is a socialist's wet dream? The more control over people the better. This whole carbon offset scheme with carbon quotas smacks of centrally planned economy just like in the olden days of communism with the same asinine quota plans. Don't let socialists fool you into higher taxes and more control over your lives. Screw them.

Alig,

I no longer believe you are who you say you are.

I think you are an oil industry executive, sitting at a computer,
busily putting anti-GW dis-information across 20 or 30 web sites.

You are white, 50 years old, with millions of shares in the Oil/Auto/Coal
company you work for, and smoke 2 packs of cigarettes per day.

You eat red meat 7 days a week, and leave the vegetables for faggots.
Your V8 company supplied car is parked outside and you spend your weekends
cleaning and racing it, except Sunday when you spend the whole day in church.

How close to the truth am i ?

gregf wrote:Alig,

I no longer believe you are who you say you are.

I think you are an oil industry executive, sitting at a computer,
busily putting anti-GW dis-information across 20 or 30 web sites.

You are white, 50 years old, with millions of shares in the Oil/Auto/Coal
company you work for, and smoke 2 packs of cigarettes per day.

You eat red meat 7 days a week, and leave the vegetables for faggots.
Your V8 company supplied car is parked outside and you spend your weekends
cleaning and racing it, except Sunday when you spend the whole day in church.

How close to the truth am i ?

I wish, mate......I wish........

alig wrote:I wish, mate......I wish........