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In Alaska? No Problem!raggatwin wrote:Despite my left wing politics I am a supporter of the idea of a Jewish homeland and for Israelis
Hamas was elected by palestinians after a democratic election.Israel must accept it for peace.. It is difficult for hamas too.. Because Israel occupied their country and Israel kills innocent babies and women. People blames Israel + Usa, of couse.. Usa hasnt done anything for truce and peace. And we all know Who rules The Usa...glennjridge wrote:Galata.
people in the muslim world and even some weirdo's in the west actually seem incredulous when Israel attacks back after being attacked.
the focus as usual is on the degree of the Israeli attack,in a pretty transparent attempt to not have to adress the continual attacks by hamas that put the lives of regular palestinians in anger.
you and some others will do anything rather than adress that. its key to why the palestinians will always suffer.
glennjridge wrote:I know, we need some new material. hopefully 2009 gives us some new wars and disasters so we can talk about some other stuff.
I think alig is very nervous, "Because Hamas air forces killed 400 innocent jews!" (He watches CNN)alig wrote: The Islam ideology is based on antisemitism and antichristianism. There is never gonna be any peace with Israel because Islam's goal is to annihilate Israel and all Jews. The Palestinians already have their own state: Jordan! They could easily be assimilated by their Arab brethren. They could also easily live peacefully in Israel, just like many Arabs do. But they choose to launch rockets on Israel. Israel historically belongs to the Jews and Arabs came to Israel after the Jews had turned the desert land into an oasis. The Arabs came as immigrants looking for work. The land never belonged to them. After WWII, the Arabs declared war on Israel and asked the Palestinians to leave Israel and return after the Arabs would have killed all Jews. So the Palestinians were never forced out of Israel. They left because their Arab brethrens promised them a quick victory. Then, when Israel won, they remained in Palestine. And the Arab nations are using the Palestinians to keep this conflict up. Palestine never was Arab territory. Arabs don't belong there. It's just a tiny, arid piece of land they entered as immigrants. Why don't they just return to their Arab home countries? Because that way, they can keep killing Jews and pretend that the reason for their misery is Israeli occupation. Liar liar pants on fire!
Islam forbids Racism. The best place to live for a jew/christian is an islam country. There are a lot of jews that live in Iran, Ahmedinejad's country... Never heard of bad things against Jews..alig wrote: The Islam ideology is based on antisemitism and antichristianism.
yes you are right! will usa stop spending your taxes for israel's security?glennjridge wrote:hamas wont stop the rockets...ever. wake up greg.
They have Newcastle Brown Ale. I was there in September.Drico One wrote:The Yosemite Sam. A place out in the sticks, renowned for having one customer. Others call it solitary confinement.
That'll be the illegal occupation of their lands and the indiscriminate slaughter of women and children then.mahatmajridge wrote:I do have a problem with middle eastern culture. if you truly cared about the palestinians,it would be a problem you would have also.
I recognize that the bulk of muslims are nice people like you who just want to live their lives just like anyone else.
but there is something in their character that makes them suceptible to being indoctrinated... and led....by this militant form of Islam which continually lead them to ruin.
Well, that's the Bush Administration right there. Or the entire Republican war machine itching to make billions raining hell on innocent Iraqis. We've been led by a violent minority too. Smell the disgrace.glennjridge wrote:if a seemingly peaceful majority allows itself to be led by a violent minority,who can tell the difference.
What planet are you on? Do you not watch the news? (not including Fox) I call it indiscriminate to bomb a densely-populated civilian area for days on end but then I'm not a rabid Zionist.moshejridge wrote:yeah I dont think he does,anyways its pretty much a well known fact Hamas purposely stations itself in civilian areas.
so....your pretty much saying the Israeli should sacrafice many lives of its own people to go in with one hand tied behind their back in small ground operations and take lots of casualties to appease world opinion their operations are too disportionate.
maybe in our soft western culture in police operations maybe.... but certainly not for a people who are fighting for their right to exist surrounded by countrys who would love to kill them all.