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Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2025, 11:51 am
by Future Lover
Another chronic case of Trump brainworms...

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2025, 12:42 pm
by oakey
Let's hope the Dreamworld Live bluray gets released soon, with or without Go West. TBH I would not really care if GW would not be included. Of course, for completists it is nice to have the original full version of this release and it is a bit annoying that some copies were made available, but not feeding this Willis troll anymore (either with money or the power of control over this cover version) is more important in my view.

And PSB's GW is certainly overplayed, so I will not miss it. That said, they (PSB) really own their version of GW and made the song big anyway (before 1992, it was completely overshadowed by the other Village People hits. I frequented gay clubs at the time, and other VP songs were played regularly, but I was not familiar with GW until PSB covered it and it was included in Priscilla Queen of the desert).

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2025, 7:09 pm
by joepsb
NotInvisible wrote: Sat 08 Nov 2025, 2:31 am The withdrawn release is available online if you know where to look. Anyone who wants the full tracklist in their digital collection can have it without too much trouble.
Blu ray ?

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2025, 8:01 pm
by leesmapman
Some of the TV broadcasts are complete, so you can watch Go West there if you want to..

The completist in me feels much pain though.

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Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Tue 11 Nov 2025, 10:59 pm
by Morphas
Dog wrote: Sat 25 Oct 2025, 10:50 am It’s likely it’s along the lines of this. The other thing which Neil has said more recently is that he sometimes forgets that their version of Go West is a cover version.
I guess the Boys have plenty of reasons to 'take' Go west as their own: it was them who catapulted this song worldwide (at least to this Brazilian 10yo-boy back then).

There are some other songs which took me a while to understand that they weren't originals. These cover songs may not be so obvious to many of us, ordinary fans:

What keeps mankind alive?
If love were all
Break 4 love
Try it (I'm in love with a married man)
My girl
I cried for us
Glad all over
The last to die
Se a vida é

Some obvious covers also include:

Always on my mind
Where the streets have no name / I can't take my eyes off you
Girls & Boys
Somewhere
Je t'aime... moi non plus
Viva la vida
I started a joke
The dark end of the street
All the young dudes
Miserere
We're the Pet Shop Boys

And there are algo some songs whose instrumental parts, or guitar-reefs, or melodies, were sampled or re-recorded for PSB songs (in brackets):

Ennio Morricone's "Forecast" (it couldn't happen here)
Barry White's "Your the first, the last, my everything" (Positive role model)
The fire's "Father's name is dead" (I didn't get where I am today)
Henry Purcell's King Arthur's "Cupid What Ho" (Love is a gorgeous construct)

I made a playlist trying to include some originals altogether.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4fZY3 ... m6RxTToCL2

If anybody knows more to add - or even correct - please speak out!

PS: what if the Boys put out another 'obscure' show with all covers entitled somehow like "Back to NOT mine" ?! Maybe they could thus demonstrate to some "who'd take a bullet for Narcissus" that there are no reasons to Go any more West than they've already gone.

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2025, 9:13 pm
by Sexy Northeasterner
I was at Hardwick Festival earlier this year and they didn’t perform Go West so this explains it.

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2025, 10:28 pm
by MikeyC
I don’t think Go west was part of the festival setlist from the beginning. They didn’t perform it on the co-headlining Unity Tour either. x

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2025, 10:44 pm
by nonesuch
I believe we've passed the 21 day deadline (from Oct. 22) for Willis to file an amended complaint. No sign of anything yet...

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sat 31 Jan 2026, 6:15 pm
by nonesuch
It turns out she did refile and the case is still ongoing. There's a breakdown here for anyone who speaks legalese:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... nant_et_al

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Sat 31 Jan 2026, 6:36 pm
by Dog
nonesuch wrote:It turns out she did refile and the case is still ongoing. There's a breakdown here for anyone who speaks legalese:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... nant_et_al
1. Karen Willis) is suing Neil Tennant, Chris Lowe, and Warner Music

She claims they infringed her copyright.

She is representing herself (called pro se), which often leads to procedural complications.

2. The case has mostly been about paperwork, not the actual claims

Before a court even looks at whether the claim is true, the plaintiff must:

• File the complaint correctly
• Serve the defendants correctly
• Establish that the court has jurisdiction
• State a legally valid claim

Most of the docket so far is about whether she did those things properly.

3. The defendants filed a Motion to Dismiss

Neil, Chris, and Warner Music asked the judge to throw the case out.

Their arguments likely include:

• She didn’t serve them properly
• The court doesn’t have jurisdiction over them
• The complaint doesn’t state a valid legal claim

This is standard in cases like this.

4. A hearing was scheduled for 12 February 2026

This was supposed to be the day both sides would argue the Motion to Dismiss in front of the judge.

5. The judge cancelled the 12 February hearing

In plain English, the judge said:

“I’ve read everything. I don’t need a hearing. I’ll decide this myself.”

This is very normal. Judges often cancel hearings when they think oral argument won’t add anything.

6. The judge will now decide the Motion to Dismiss on paper

This means:

• No hearing
• No oral arguments
• The next thing that happens will be a written ruling

The ruling could:

• Dismiss the case entirely
• Dismiss parts of it
• Allow the case to continue
• Allow her to amend the complaint again

But until the judge issues that order, everything is in limbo.

7. Where things stand right now

• The case is not moving forward to evidence or trial.
• It is paused while the judge decides whether the lawsuit is even valid enough to continue.
• The 12 February date was simply the now‑cancelled hearing for that decision.

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2026, 3:19 am
by petshopgrrl
Dog wrote: Sat 31 Jan 2026, 6:36 pm 5. The judge cancelled the 12 February hearing

In plain English, the judge said:

“I’ve read everything. I don’t need a hearing. I’ll decide this myself.”

This is very normal. Judges often cancel hearings when they think oral argument won’t add anything.
He dismissed the previous case so he's heard all this shit before. Judge Todd W. Robinson has had enough.

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2026, 4:25 am
by MikeyC
The allegations have made their excuses and left. x

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2026, 8:09 am
by Dog
Unfortunately, however this plays out the fact remains that Willis has still withdrawn the rights for them to use Go West in their work.

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2026, 9:23 pm
by retrofuturist
Greetings Dog,

Do you know what consequence this could have for any existing or future compilations, or even for any re-issues of Very?

Retro. :)

Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2026, 10:13 pm
by TwizzleUK
Wonder if they'll skip 'Go West' when the digital singles re-release campaign finally happens?