Gary Numan's take on the current Singles Market...

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Gary Numan's take on the current Singles Market...

#1 Post by Cdrodkey »

Gary Numan's website gives a glimpse into the singles market from his perspective, as he is trying to sell the new Gary Numan vs Ade Fenton single, The Leather Sea:
I've been getting a few questions about why we are making the new Leather Sea single available to pre-order rather than just release it to the record stores as before.

So.

We've had a great reaction to The Leather Sea and thanks to everyone who has already bought it as a pre-order. However, the market for singles, and the way they are being sold, has changed a lot in recent years. Over the last 12 months or so, CD single sales in the UK have plummeted by somewhere between 50% and 60%, depending on what retail chain you are talking to. Not only that, many people in the industry are saying that, in the not too distant future, CD singles will be a thing of the past and that downloading will be the primary, if not the only, way of buying singles. No wonder then that the retail chains are sometimes slow to buy stock of CD singles, which is why we've decided to set up a pre-order for the two limited edition CD formats of The Leather Sea - as a way of making sure you get what you want. We will of course try our best to get the single as widely distributed as possible but in the current market we can't guarantee that it will be in your local store when it's released. Pre-ordering gives you that guarantee.

If this new approach is a success, and there is still a proven demand for CD singles, then for the moment pre-orders seem the best way forward, but either way I am increasingly excited about the new era of digital singles. As you know, The Leather Sea will also be available as a download with two exclusive tracks and I'm really hoping it's a success in its own right as digital singles open up many opportunities for releasing things that are just too prohibitive with hard copy releases. Digital singles should make things a lot more interesting and exciting for artists and fans. I'm fascinated by the way things are evolving and the speed at which it's all happening. I think it's an amazing time to be in the music business and it's an amazing time to be a fan of music.
Now, the Pets are in a different league than Numan in terms of sales, or at least I think they are. So releasing singles is probably a little different for them. In the US I often wonder if most of the videos that are seen on MTV Hits (which still plays music) are even released as singles, or if they're only released as video singles and promos, because when I go to an online retailer to check them out, the singles for these songs just don't exist. That said, one has to go to a really big corporate record store in a major city to find any singles--I don't think Target, Walmart, and chains like that even carry the top five singles anymore, let alone any singles.

At least in the US, it seems to me that a successful campaign for something like I****gral would be something like a fantastic video (like, the I'm with stupid video would make no sense to anyone in the US who hasn't seen the last 20 years of PSB videos) with a good club promo campaign and maybe a couple placements on television or in commercials. That would sell records, or at least that's how others have done it. (Remember Moby's Play got no sales or airplay when it first came out, until some songs found their way onto some commercials...)

Anyway, I just read this and thought readers here would appreciate Numan's perspective.

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#2 Post by patrick »

Most US "singles" are not released as physical singles. A video is made and the track is released to radio.

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patrick wrote:Most US "singles" are not released as physical singles. A video is made and the track is released to radio.
True. As a proof of that, here's the US singles sales chart for last week:

1 1 5 ONLY THE WORLD, MANDISA
2 2 14 LIKE THIS, KELLY ROWLAND FEATURING EVE
3 3 7 BEAUTIFUL LIAR, BEYONCE & SHAKIRA
4 4 5 PARTY LIKE A ROC, SHOP BOYZ
5 6 2 GET MY WEIGHT UP, BIGG FACE
6 NEW 1 DO IT AGAIN, THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS
7 NEW 1 SEE YOU AT THE LIGHTS, 1990S
8 5 3 YOUR KISSES ARE WASTED ON ME, THE PIPETTES
9 18 22 UNTIL YOU COME BACK TO ME, CRYSTAL DOVE STARRING DICE GAMBLE
10 7 14 LET ME SEE SOMETHING, A.G.
11 32 3 MET A MAN ON TOP OF THE HILL, MIDWAY STATE
12 8 5 OOH WEE SINGLE, AYANNA
13 16 64 EVERYDAY IS EXACTLY THE SAME, NINE INCH NAILS
14 17 42 KOOL AID, LIL' BASS
15 11 18 ALL MY LIFE, BILLY JOEL
16 12 2 WE TAKIN' OVER, DJ KHALED
17 20 26 MADE TO LOVE, TOBYMAC
18 9 19 LISTEN, BEYONCE
19 15 125 WE WILL BECOME SILHOUETTES, THE POSTAL SERVICE
20 29 16 INSIDE OUT, TEMAR UNDERWOOD
21 14 3 TONIGHT I HAVE TO LEAVE IT, SHOUT OUT LOUDS
21 10 7 D-BOY, JEDIAH FEATURING REDD EYEZZ
23 13 21 FLATHEAD, THE FRATELLIS
24 21 21 GET TO THE MONEY, REEC
25 25 6 STACKS ON DECK, PESO
26 70 4 I GET IT IN, CHAOS
27 22 68 STRAIGHT TO VIDEO, MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE
28 38 5 UMBRELLA, RIHANNA FEATURING JAY-Z
29 43 41 SHUT ME UP, MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE
29 23 11 SHE'S LIKE THE WIND, LUMIDEE FEATURING TONY SUNSHINE
31 31 22 THIS IS WHY I'M HOT, MIMS
32 NEW 1 MY PIANO, HOT CHIP
33 24 11 BRIANSTORM, ARCTIC MONKEYS
33 27 12 COUNTRY BOYZ, BIG WYNN
35 26 52 SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW, KATHARINE MCPHEE
35 63 26 CLOSER TO GOD, NINE INCH NAILS
37 33 49 DOWN HOME GIRL, OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW
38 47 3 MY 64, MIKE JONES
39 42 149 PERFECT DRUG, NINE INCH NAILS
39 54 22 PLEASE HEAT THIS EVENTUALLY, OMAR RODRIGUEZ-LOPEZ
39 43 8 COME OVER, CHERYL PEPSII RILEY
42 53 44 DISTRICT SLEEPS ALONE TONIGHT, THE POSTAL SERVICE
43 35 5 DAMN I LOOK GOOD, B.A. BOYS FEATURING YOUNG DRO
44 83 14 WHAT BOYZ LIKE, PIT AND CROW
44 46 12 BOSSMAN, DL
46 30 230 SUCH GREAT HEIGHTS, THE POSTAL SERVICE
47 67 47 LUA, BRIGHT EYES
48 18 4 HEART IT RACES, ARCHITECTURE IN HELSINKI
49 40 77 HEARTBREAK HOTEL, ELVIS PRESLEY
50 74 41 TAKE IT EASY (LOVE NOTHING), BRIGHT EYES

The fact that Such Great Heights by Postal Service has spent 230 weeks in the chart and that a 10-year old Nine Inch Nails single Perfect Drug is still in the top 40 really tells us all we need to know about how many singles are released and bought in the US.
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#4 Post by gregf »

An interesting post cdrodkey.

And I agree a great video is needed for Integral.
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Eldritch wrote:
4 4 5 PARTY LIKE A ROC, SHOP BOYZ
SHOP BOYZ ??? :o
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#6 Post by dVTB »

No matter what the trends are, I will NOT, EVER pay money to download mp3s. If people are idiot enough to be slaves of the record industry, it's their decision, but I won't cooperate. I will either buy cd-singles (when available) or simply download files illegally. If I pay money for music, I want a product, not a computer file.

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#7 Post by Radiophonic »

That US chart makes me a feel sick...
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I completely refuse to buy downloads until they come up with a format that: 1. has no stupid restrictions such as "only three copies playable on players manufactured by three companies", 2. allows to be re-downloaded any time I feel like it (I am so not going to invest money into music and then lose my entire collection when somebody plays with a magnet near my hard disk), 3. quality is at LEAST 256kbps AAC. Mind you, I have my collection ripped into my computer as 128kbps AAC files, approx. 100 GB of music. BUT -- if my hard disk dies, I can just spend two or three days ripping it all again from CDs and if I decide that 128kbps isn't enough, I can do the same. Paying for downloads is like paying for sex; it doesn't last, it's dangerous, it sucks and you feel cheated afterwards. (Not that I know, as I never paid either for a download or for sex, but I'm quite proud of the comparison.)

I tried to buy Tracey Thorn's new single on itunes as itunes plus (256kbps, AAC, no restrictions/crappy pootection). I wasn't even able to find out how much it COSTS until I provided itunes with my credit card details. Bog off, itunes. I can live without Tracey Thorn's Stephen Merritt covers. It's just a shame that Tracey is hardly going to make a lot of money off the single if even fans like me can't find a satisfying way to pay for it.
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#9 Post by Frequency »

I gave in once and bought Ewan Pearson's Psychological remix. Never used i-tunes, I'm not keen on iPods anyway, 7digital seem ok though it is slightly bothersome that these downloads aren't quite cd quality. I guess to the mass market sound quality is no longer an issue.

The restrictions are ludicrous because once you burn it onto disc, they're gone and you can just re-encode it back as a standard mp3.

Basically to re-iterate what Ray says. I want a proper cd quality format with no restrictions otherwise I'll stick with the physical formats for as long as possible.

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#10 Post by Cdrodkey »

SHOP BOYZ ???
Yeah, I saw this video on MTV hits the other day. Hm.


Regarding NIN, why is the Perfect Drug still on the charts?

Here's a good example of why I think the CD single market in the US went down. I remember when I heard the Perfect Drug, I thought, great song, everyone was yearning for NIN to come out with a new record, etc., etc. It was on some soundtrack.

The CD single was an EP of all remixes but not the original. In fact, the remixes, I thought at the time, were terrible and most had little resemblance to the original.

Imagine buying the Liberation CD and not having any single mix, no extended mix, but 9 versions of the E smoove take, which have little, if anything to do with the original.

It's been a while since I listened to that CD, if I even still have it.

Curious. Anyone, why is the perfect drug in the top 40? I just did a quick check and the highest peak of the single originally was #46, so it's higher now!??

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#11 Post by Posh Boy »

I'm not sure Numan's situation applies to PSB. I have the impression PSB singles are mainly bought by their fans (as opposed to their albums which have a wider audience) and the fans will buy these cd singles, 7inches etc by mail order if they have to. In fact, I bought the last couple of Fundamental singles from eBay. I hardly ever visit a physical record store anymore, because they are stacked with dvds, games and perhaps a few cds. So my point is that PSB need not revert to purely digital distribution because their fanbase is large enough to still make a (small) profit out of physical distribution.
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Posh Boy wrote:I'm not sure Numan's situation applies to PSB. I have the impression PSB singles are mainly bought by their fans (as opposed to their albums which have a wider audience) and the fans will buy these cd singles, 7inches etc by mail order if they have to. In fact, I bought the last couple of Fundamental singles from eBay. I hardly ever visit a physical record store anymore, because they are stacked with dvds, games and perhaps a few cds. So my point is that PSB need not revert to purely digital distribution because their fanbase is large enough to still make a (small) profit out of physical distribution.

That is what I have been trying to figure out. To see this thread on the general section makes no sense here. :?

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#13 Post by Frequency »

Whilst the article may not be totally analogous, it does give a good indication of where the single market is heading and makes some valid points which are affecting PSB at the moment. Though, the whole pre-order thing is more particular to Gary Numan.

Woolworths in the UK, for example, which always used to carry PSB singles stopped after I'm With Stupid. So, its not as if they're totally unaffected by this shift towards digital dowloads.

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dVTB wrote:No matter what the trends are, I will NOT, EVER pay money to download mp3s. If people are idiot enough to be slaves of the record industry, it's their decision, but I won't cooperate. I will either buy cd-singles (when available) or simply download files illegally. If I pay money for music, I want a product, not a computer file.
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#15 Post by DazzerUKUK »

this should be moved to off topic
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