Greatest Hits - 1 CD version ???

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Riikka · #16 Post by **Riikka** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:08 pm

drunk14 wrote:01. NEW SONG
02. Left To My Own Devices
03. Go West
04. What Have I Done To Deserve This ?
05. So Hard
06. I Get Along
07. Can You Forgive Her ?
08. I'm With Stupid
09. Always On My Mind
10. Home And Dry
11. Heart
12. Suburbia (Video Version)
13. A Red Letter Day
14. Minimal
15. I Don't Know What You Want, But I Can't Give It Any More
16. Se A Vida E (That's The Way Life Is)
17. Rent
18. Yesterday When I Was Mad
19. Where The Streets Have No Name (I Can't Take My Eyes Off You)
20. New York City Boy
21. Being Boring
22. NEW SONG

But we can't leave West end girls and It's a sin out, never, can we??

Danger · #17 Post by **Danger** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:14 pm

I don't think that we will see a Greatest Hits so soon, there is only one album between PopArt and the eventually new best of... I will preffer for sure an Alternative 2. For me the best would be a 3CD anthology 1. Hits (with one between NYC Boy or I don't know what you want but I can't give it any more!), 2. Remixes, 3. Live: perfect!

Very · #18 Post by **Very** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:23 pm

Go West and all the rest

drunk14 · #19 Post by **drunk14** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:31 pm

Riikka wrote:
drunk14 wrote:01. NEW SONG
02. Left To My Own Devices
03. Go West
04. What Have I Done To Deserve This ?
05. So Hard
06. I Get Along
07. Can You Forgive Her ?
08. I'm With Stupid
09. Always On My Mind
10. Home And Dry
11. Heart
12. Suburbia (Video Version)
13. A Red Letter Day
14. Minimal
15. I Don't Know What You Want, But I Can't Give It Any More
16. Se A Vida E (That's The Way Life Is)
17. Rent
18. Yesterday When I Was Mad
19. Where The Streets Have No Name (I Can't Take My Eyes Off You)
20. New York City Boy
21. Being Boring
22. NEW SONG
But we can't leave West end girls and It's a sin out, never, can we??

Ulala in fact. I've forgotten but i can't choose 22 songs. They have too many great songs

I hope they will never release one disc the best of

It would harm some really good songs :/

Riikka · #20 Post by **Riikka** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:50 pm

I agree Drunk14, but I would leave "I get along" out from your list.

Dog · #21 Post by **Dog** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 5:59 pm

I agree we're likely to see a single CD greatest hits - and that they'll also take the opportunity to issue a box set at the same time to please the fans.

Ronald42 · #22 Post by **Ronald42** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 6:24 pm

Posh Boy wrote:Could someone please explain why a GH would be in the cards just 4 years after PopArt? I just don't see the point.

Most easely example of this is the release of U2's album 18. New record deal (OK they switched compagnies) BOOM greatest hits CD very short after "The best of 1990 - 2000" there was absolutly NO reason what so ever to release it. BTW I didn't buy it (yet) I got both new singles from it which is good enough for me. Perhaps I will pick up the Lim. edition with bonus DVD one day.

Ray · #23 Post by **Ray** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 7:07 pm

drunk14 wrote:01. NEW SONG
02. Left To My Own Devices
03. Go West
04. What Have I Done To Deserve This ?
05. So Hard
06. I Get Along
07. Can You Forgive Her ?
08. I'm With Stupid
09. Always On My Mind
10. Home And Dry
11. Heart
12. Suburbia (Video Version)
13. A Red Letter Day
14. Minimal
15. I Don't Know What You Want, But I Can't Give It Any More
16. Se A Vida E (That's The Way Life Is)
17. Rent
18. Yesterday When I Was Mad
19. Where The Streets Have No Name (I Can't Take My Eyes Off You)
20. New York City Boy
21. Being Boring
22. NEW SONG

Are you people aware of how long a CD can be in minutes? Go West alone is 5:07. Which is why "my" version of the CD has 16 tracks.

Oh well, it's not as if PSB are going to care about our fantasy tracklistings

PopArt · #24 Post by **PopArt** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 10:30 pm

I'm sure it will happen, and sooner rather than later. Probably after one more studio album because I imagine Neil and Chris would put their foot down if it was before then. However, part of the deal might have been to release the single disc version sooner. PopArt did well but being a double disc would have damaged its sales to the casual buyer. Also, remember it was Neil and Chris who changed it at the last minute to a 2 CD version because they could never decide on a good single disc version.

What Parlophone would want is something like this:

1. West End girls
2. Opportunities
3. It's a Sin
4. What have I done to deserve this?
5. Always on my mind
6. Heart
7. Domino dancing
8. Left to my own devices
9. Being boring
10. Where the streets have no name
11. Can you forgive her?
12. Go West
13. Se a vida e
14. New York City boy
15. Home and dry
16. Flamboyant
17. I'm with Stupid (or maybe Numb?)
18. New Song
19. New Song

I am not sure that's what N&C would want though, but Parlophone would see that as the way of really shifting some units....

Propertius · #25 Post by **Propertius** » Thu 19 Jul 2007, 11:01 pm

A one-disc greatest hits collections is inevitable, and I think there are about 8 or 9 songs that we can be sure will be included: the six singles that made #1 or #2, "Being Boring" (since it's a band and fan fave), and Left to my own devices and SAVE (which are staples of the boys' live performances). "Opportunities" is probably iconic enough that it will have to be included too.

My guess would be that the rest of the collection would be filled out with one or two of the best-charting or best-known tracks from each album that isn't represented above. So, New York city boy and / or Drunk, Home and Dry, and either I'm With Stupid or (if it charts well) Integral. I think either Miracles or Flamboyant would make the cut, too, as a representative of the late period -- hopefully Flamboyant, which didn't chart as well but is the more impressive track.

Throw in a new track, and that's fifteen. Space enough for one or two more, chosen from Suburbia, Rent, Domino Dancing, and Can you forgive her??. There's an incentive not to include It's Alright or Where the streets have no name (I can't take my eyes off you) -- the boys (and presumably Parlo) don't earn publishing royalties on those; in fact, they have to pay 'em. My guess would be that Suburbia and Can you forgive her?? make the cut.

glennjridge · #26 Post by **glennjridge** » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 4:31 am

I think the next time there is a project by the PSB themselves that concerns putting all their hits on a CD will be for the coveted box set they will release someday down the road.

I'm really looking forward to that release.demo's, unreleased songs, all the hits, alternate versions possibly.

dVTB · #27 Post by **dVTB** » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 8:09 am

Propertius wrote:A one-disc greatest hits collections is inevitable, and I think there are about 8 or 9 songs that we can be sure will be included: the six singles that made #1 or #2, "Being Boring" (since it's a band and fan fave) and Left to my own devices and SAVE (which are staples of the boys' live performances). "Opportunities" is probably iconic enough that it will have to be included too.

I agree about the majority of songs you mention here, only not Being Boring. A song can be a fan and band favourite, but that's no reason to include it on a Greatest Hits cd. Such compilations aren't released to please fans. It's going to feature tracks that the main audience will recognize. Being Boring was not a hit; it struggled to reach the UK Top 20, only two singles did worse. It also didn't make massive impact outside the UK. No matter how great Being Boring is, it will not generate extra sales. A (crap) track like Where The Streets Have No Name is more likely to appear, for the reasons I just mentioned.

My guess would be that the rest of the collection would be filled out with one or two of the best-charting or best-known tracks from each album that isn't represented above. So, New York city boy and / or Drunk, Home and Dry, and either I'm With Stupid or (if it charts well) Integral. I think either Miracles or Flamboyant would make the cut, too, as a representative of the late period -- hopefully Flamboyant, which didn't chart as well but is the more impressive track.

If you look at post-Very Pet Shop Boys singles, the choice of what to include is very subjective. No, it's one big lottery. The two most succesful singles in Europe are probably Se A Vida E and New York City Boy, despits its low charting position in the UK. Either I'm With Stupid or Integral (I think chances are growing for the latter) will be included. You can justify skipping the Release era. I would also love to see Flamboyant on the album (it's much better than Miracles), but Miracles was a UK Top 10-hit...

Throw in a new track, and that's fifteen. Space enough for one or two more, chosen from Suburbia, Rent, Domino Dancing, and Can you forgive her??. There's an incentive not to include It's Alright or Where the streets have no name (I can't take my eyes off you) -- the boys (and presumably Parlo) don't earn publishing royalties on those; in fact, they have to pay 'em. My guess would be that Suburbia and Can you forgive her?? make the cut.

You have a good point regarding Streets, but royalties don't seem to bother PSB / Parlopone. The track is featured in several (read: too many) PSB tours. Suburbia and Domino Dancing are key Pet Shop Boys tracks and both big hits. Remember this is an international release. I think these songs are guaranteed to be included.

daveid · #28 Post by **daveid** » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 8:56 am

What about Home and Dry? That's a fantastic single!

dVTB · #29 Post by **dVTB** » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 9:09 am

daveid wrote:What about Home and Dry? That's a fantastic single!

It's the second worst charting lead single (behind I don't know what you want but I can't give it any more) and it didn't make any chart impact outside the UK. A Greatest Hits album is not about fantastic songs or fan favourites, it's about well-known tracks that the general audience will recognize.

Personally, I would release a 1cd AND 2cd edition of the Greatest Hits album, by the way. The single cd contains about 18 PSB hits, the second disc has essential PSB singles that display the variety of what PSB did. I could imagine songs like Rent, It's Alright, Being Boring, Jealousy, Paninaro 95, Before, Drunk, Miracles and Minimal to appear on that second disc.

Ray · #30 Post by **Ray** » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 10:04 am

dVTB wrote:Personally, I would release a 1cd AND 2cd edition of the Greatest Hits album, by the way. The single cd contains about 18 PSB hits, the second disc has essential PSB singles that display the variety of what PSB did. I could imagine songs like Rent, It's Alright, Being Boring, Jealousy, Paninaro 95, Before, Drunk, Miracles and Minimal to appear on that second disc.

But that's out already and called PopArt.