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#136 Post by Syncratic »

pet shop boy wrote:
Instead of worshipping something you cannot hear, see, touch, feel or smell, worship you for a change?.
So for a capitalist/aspirationalist you certainly have some inconsistent views overall. Great theory :roll: Isn't this why the western world is f***? This viewpoint really does jar with your arguments.

Once in a while you need to stop reading Michael Moore and read between the lines of the conspiracy theorists, or people might think you're David Icke.

From the half or dozen or so replies of yours I've seen you haven't presented any new opinion or idea that hasn't already been discussed here. Now I don't expect you to read every single post but at least engage with the matters in hand. There's a sense of hysteria in your text mixed in with the Daily Mail's Melanie Phillips view on Climate Change. Yet again, very common and conventional conspiracies. I'm sure there's more than a grain of truth in the old ideas of 'war is peace', 'fear is power' mantras but they go against this 'think of yourself' view which in my opinion is what the US and it's citizens pride themselves on and built their whole democracy on and yet you're a bit upset and surprised when they act on this. Thinking of yourself is precisely the problem.

Until we actually discover that Elvis was behind Diana's assassination or it was Noddy who was responsible for the twin towers collapsing and corpsing thousands of folks, we should at least look seriously on what we have to go on, and from this perch of mine on Ben Nevis, I would say not a lot.

Re. Colonel Ridge- much of the time he misunderstands what I say and thinks I'm just attacking the US for its own sake when in fact the US seems to be doing a good job of bringing itself down. All I say to him, it's that it's OK to feel screwed by your own illegally elected leaders once in a while. News just in...J Edgar Hoover has been dead for many years.

As for being uncivilised, well, maybe I am to some extent as is society in general from the output in the Media, to the disturbing rise in consumerism, aspirationalism and the quest for growing self-obsession and one upmanship. I think we're all pretty guilt of this and its pointless pretending otherwise.
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#137 Post by Fugitive1979 »

pet shop boy wrote:That being I just cannot understand why these 4 men would blow up trains and a bus, why they wouldn't blow up the thames flooding the underground, doesn't make any sense.
I'm no terrorist, but even I know that it would take a f***-load of explosives to blow up the Thames and flood the Underground. I don't even think a fully fuel-laden Boeing 747 just out of Heathrow in a high-speed dive would manage it.

Saying that, though, I don't think the Greenwich foot tunnel would take much persuading to cave in..........
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#138 Post by glennjridge »

pet shop boy wrote:
glennjridge wrote: you are suggesting some kind of devilish devious secret masterplan such as phase 1 ....9/11 with demolition teams

its contradictory and cant be resolved other than you saying something ridiculous like he didnt have to or forgot.you dont be at that high a level and roll the dice when it comes to something like 9/11.
What brought down building 7?

Just because he is a "president", doesn't mean he's not capable of murdering innocent people.

By the way, i dont mind him invading muslim countries, atleast the muslims wont be coming here if he murders them.

I do have a problem with him telling the world that bad people are out to kill us and to stop this we must support him.

first off,this will answer your 9/11 conspiracy theorys . they've already been adressed many times over hence why the event happened in 2001 and here it is going on 2008 and only a minority like you still think it was all a conspiracy.

it is a step by step report by scientists debunking the ideas inlcuding building 7. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... tml?page=5

second,
like I said,if you are going to suggest a conspiracy it should at least make sense. if he did a conspiracy to get phase one correct,ie demolish the towers, he would have also planned a conspiracy for the inavsion and planted WMD to further the whole plan rather than leave loose ends.

you see what a difficult problem that is for conspiracy theorists.

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#139 Post by glennjridge »

syncratic if you dont think I understand you fine. but I will say that before 9/11, life was going on just as normal.

and then there was the attacks.

this weird relaxed pretense some seem so interested in showing outwardly that says,hey terrorism is all in the mind flies in face of the facts a terrorist group did in fact bring their primitive mindset from their area of the globe to another and succesfully knocked down towers in the middle of a major city.

the only benefit the weak ,and overly politcally correct and soft western culture has,ironically has been war. in that its kept the eastern powers that be generally is a state of military ruin.

liberalism only exists safely on forums and in the west.

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#140 Post by DJAMIX »

So now you know why there's war in the world. It's a neverending argument. :wink:
One can't find the way to peace. Peace is the way itself. (Gandhi)

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#141 Post by pet shop boy »

Syncratic wrote: So for a capitalist/aspirationalist you certainly have some inconsistent views overall. Great theory :roll: Isn't this why the western world is f***ed? This viewpoint really does jar with your arguments.
Inconsistent?
Once in a while you need to stop reading Michael Moore and read between the lines of the conspiracy theorists, or people might think you're David Icke.
I dont like micheal moore. Whats a conspiracy theorist? You're behaving like a conspiracy theorist in wrongly judging what i think.
From the half or dozen or so replies of yours I've seen you haven't presented any new opinion or idea that hasn't already been discussed here. There's a sense of hysteria in your text mixed in with the Daily Mail's Melanie Phillips view on Climate Change.
Is your opinion lifes only opinion or are other people who you disagree with allowed one too?

Why are you being hysterical in your views?
I'm sure there's more than a grain of truth in the old ideas of 'war is peace', 'fear is power' mantras but they go against this 'think of yourself' view
If we can think for ourselves, then were not being controlled through fear.
Until we actually discover that Elvis was behind Diana's assassination or it was Noddy who was responsible for the twin towers collapsing and corpsing thousands of folks, we should at least look seriously on what we have to go on
Ok, so whilst we dont know the facts, the US and UK governments are giving one side of the story, should they stop doing this?
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#142 Post by pet shop boy »

Fugitive1979 wrote: I'm no terrorist, but even I know that it would take a f***-load of explosives to blow up the Thames and flood the Underground. I don't even think a fully fuel-laden Boeing 747 just out of Heathrow in a high-speed dive would manage it.
Of course it would. If the 4 bombs 0n 7/7 were blown up together, would that be enough? You only have to dent the wall, and the stregnth of the water would burst through.
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#143 Post by pet shop boy »

glennjridge wrote: first off,this will answer your 9/11 conspiracy theorys . it is a step by step report by scientists debunking the ideas inlcuding building 7.
You mean, government funded "scientists"?

Im asking YOU, you're the one who believes the government version, what brought down building 7?
only a minority like you still think it was all a conspiracy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=5

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3600562261
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#144 Post by Syncratic »

pet shop boy wrote:
Syncratic wrote: So for a capitalist/aspirationalist you certainly have some inconsistent views overall. Great theory :roll: Isn't this why the western world is f***ed? This viewpoint really does jar with your arguments.
Inconsistent?
Once in a while you need to stop reading Michael Moore and read between the lines of the conspiracy theorists, or people might think you're David Icke.
I dont like micheal moore. Whats a conspiracy theorist? You're behaving like a conspiracy theorist in wrongly judging what i think.
From the half or dozen or so replies of yours I've seen you haven't presented any new opinion or idea that hasn't already been discussed here. There's a sense of hysteria in your text mixed in with the Daily Mail's Melanie Phillips view on Climate Change.
Is your opinion lifes only opinion or are other people who you disagree with allowed one too?

Why are you being hysterical in your views?
I'm sure there's more than a grain of truth in the old ideas of 'war is peace', 'fear is power' mantras but they go against this 'think of yourself' view
If we can think for ourselves, then were not being controlled through fear.
Until we actually discover that Elvis was behind Diana's assassination or it was Noddy who was responsible for the twin towers collapsing and corpsing thousands of folks, we should at least look seriously on what we have to go on
Ok, so whilst we dont know the facts, the US and UK governments are giving one side of the story, should they stop doing this?
So you acknowledge that we don't know the facts then ? Good. Now you mention it I'm sure they will stop being naughty and take everything back.

Your own questions to my post prove to me that you have failed to fully engage with the points I raised and that you remain inconsistent. Are you under 21 by any chance?

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#145 Post by raggatwin »

pet shop boy wrote:
Undertaker wrote: Or just walked around the streets, killing people with their sweaty stench. After all, one of them was a teacher. How stupid of them.
:lol: my marxist friend works with a muslim and she's forever complaining about his bo, trouble is, this marxist is SCARED of telling him for fear of being called a "racist", and she's never usually afraid of speaking her mind. She even has the power to sack him.

What a hellhole society we live in :cry:
yet again you confuse socialism with social liberalism......
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#146 Post by gergana »

Deschanel wrote:Hey Black, from Moscow: why do you have such a filthy mind, and why are you such a billboard for why the Russians are still in the Dark Ages?

You wrote:
"I don't think women enjoy being stoned for adultery as well as homosexuals for homosexual acts, but they are warned about the consequences."

So, those sluts don't enjoy being slaughtered with rocks, but clearly you approve. Is this Russia we're still talking about? Stoning adultereses? Whoa! You lot are worse than I thought.

As for gay people, like Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe of Pet Shop Boys, who the f*** are you to warn of consequences?

" I think a wise use of freedom for those inclined to do that things would be to move to Holland instead of doing it in the country where 90% of population finds it so much despiseble. They are free to despise whatever they like, aren't they? I guess you despise paedophiles? "

I think ANY Russian would love to move to Holland rather than deal with cavewomen like you. Yep, get me out of here. But hasn't that been the case forever?


"Imagine --paedophiles are suffering from prohibition to have sex with 12 y.olds. Also imagine somewhere in Holland party of paedophiles comes to power (it seems there is such a patry indeed!) and starts to attack your country for opression of paedophiles, in their opinion you are not free, retarded idiots and paedophiles- poor suffering victims who should be defended. Sorry for such a rude and absurd example. "

At least you've put down the vodka long enough to admit what you're talking about is absurd. But what a sick, fevered attempt to smear all gay people as pedophiles!
Astonishing, you put some effort into it.

You're reprehensible, Black. Screw your support of brutalizing gay people- talk about suffering victims! I'd tell you to go to hell, but sounds like you're already there.
moderators, take a look at this. racists and rusophobes like this yank should get banned! :evil:

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#147 Post by Deschanel »

Maybe if I told you to kiss my ass, "Gergana"- charming name, sounds like an infection.

But no, I'm not telling you to kiss my fucsking ass. Not at all.

How bad is the troll infestation here that the malicious posters now have actual TROLLS as their avatars?

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#148 Post by kid lotus »

Deschanel wrote:Maybe if I told you to kiss my ass, "Gergana"- charming name, sounds like an infection.
That wasn't a very nice answer from someone who claims to be 36 years old. but maybe that's a normal responce for an average american, who knows? :? :shock:

as for "gergana", it sounds liek a bulgarian female name. sorry for the off-topic!

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#149 Post by Undertaker »

Anyone want to open a book on who kid lotus was formally known as on here?

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#150 Post by Flaffer »

twatfuck
Still waiting to hear the Adam Freeland, Manhattan Clique and Axwell mixes of Integral.

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