iMac
iMac
I'm experiencing on-going PC problems, so I'm thinking seriously about buying one of the new iMacs and was just wondering if anybody had one or experience of using one? Any good/bad things about them? Tips?
- Deschanel
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I'd heartily recommend an iMac, you won't regret it. Say goodbye to viruses and trojan horses, arcane commands and arbitrary restrictions.
The cons: you can't play .exe files, those mini-programs of haha-funny look at this your friends send that unfunnily enough are the main vectors of viruses.
Con: your friends will be jealous.
Possible Con: a new iMac is about US$ 1200. But for the power, ease, simplicity, freedom from viruses it's worth it. A similarly powered Windows PC will not be that much cheaper, but anti-virus software and constant vigilance and housekeeping begs the question: how much is your time worth?
How often do you have to manually deal with a new infection, a new clunky update, that ugly interface? Per week? per month? Mac users have none of these routine hassles at all. NO VIRUSES.
PRO: Macs are easy, beautiful, superbly designed, fully integrated and powered. They let you GO to your music, your videos, your design project, your animations. They get the hell out of your way and let you do what you want to do. And there's nothing you do on a PC you can't do on a Mac.
Native, I heartily encourage you to go for it, get rid of all that hassle and go Mac. You won't regret it, and you'll wonder why you put up with so much hassle for so long. Remember, PSB are longtime Mac people as well, if that helps.
Best of luck.

(I forgot to mention: if you really need Windows for something, you can install it on the sleek new Intel-based iMacs and switch between both systems. But you'll soon realize -why bother?)
The cons: you can't play .exe files, those mini-programs of haha-funny look at this your friends send that unfunnily enough are the main vectors of viruses.
Con: your friends will be jealous.
Possible Con: a new iMac is about US$ 1200. But for the power, ease, simplicity, freedom from viruses it's worth it. A similarly powered Windows PC will not be that much cheaper, but anti-virus software and constant vigilance and housekeeping begs the question: how much is your time worth?
How often do you have to manually deal with a new infection, a new clunky update, that ugly interface? Per week? per month? Mac users have none of these routine hassles at all. NO VIRUSES.
PRO: Macs are easy, beautiful, superbly designed, fully integrated and powered. They let you GO to your music, your videos, your design project, your animations. They get the hell out of your way and let you do what you want to do. And there's nothing you do on a PC you can't do on a Mac.
Native, I heartily encourage you to go for it, get rid of all that hassle and go Mac. You won't regret it, and you'll wonder why you put up with so much hassle for so long. Remember, PSB are longtime Mac people as well, if that helps.
Best of luck.
(I forgot to mention: if you really need Windows for something, you can install it on the sleek new Intel-based iMacs and switch between both systems. But you'll soon realize -why bother?)
- glennjridge
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first off, the no virus issue is a false sense of security only in so much as the MAC in relation to the PC as far as owners is relatively small. and as such it generally stays below the radar of hackers. if hackers can get in NASA databases, they can get viruses inside the MAC.
they generally dont because this is still for now mainly a PC world and these people are using an IBM platform so the viruses wont be for the MAC.but just the same, the MAC can get viruses and as users increease the likelyhood will be more will. Ironically the more popular the MAC gets the less secure it will be. to further rain on the parade, lets not forget the MAC is powered by an intel chip no less.
and I assure you, like any computer the usual ills apply. in the graphic department where I work one of the MAC users lost 2 harddrives over a 3 year period.just fried.I've never had a hardrive burn out.
I know it may seem like those things will always happen to "the other guy"but be sure to back up what you do on what ever computer you decide on.
if you are doing graphics or recording music or editing videos I'm sure it is a great platform, but choose wisely because there is no promised land when it comes to computers. I work in a department that utilizes both PC and MAC.
you will keep hearing about ease of use and all that, but at the end of the day they generally are comparable.clicking icons,opening file menu,dragging and dropping, its all there for both.
what makes it seem like they might not be is basically only thru the sort of preachy nature of some MAC users.
they generally dont because this is still for now mainly a PC world and these people are using an IBM platform so the viruses wont be for the MAC.but just the same, the MAC can get viruses and as users increease the likelyhood will be more will. Ironically the more popular the MAC gets the less secure it will be. to further rain on the parade, lets not forget the MAC is powered by an intel chip no less.
and I assure you, like any computer the usual ills apply. in the graphic department where I work one of the MAC users lost 2 harddrives over a 3 year period.just fried.I've never had a hardrive burn out.
I know it may seem like those things will always happen to "the other guy"but be sure to back up what you do on what ever computer you decide on.
if you are doing graphics or recording music or editing videos I'm sure it is a great platform, but choose wisely because there is no promised land when it comes to computers. I work in a department that utilizes both PC and MAC.
you will keep hearing about ease of use and all that, but at the end of the day they generally are comparable.clicking icons,opening file menu,dragging and dropping, its all there for both.
what makes it seem like they might not be is basically only thru the sort of preachy nature of some MAC users.
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- Effen Vida
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Well... although that used to be true, EVERY game that is released for PC's can now be played on a Mac... as it's now possible to install and natively run XP / Vista etc on a Mac. Dual booting is a wonderful thing.redsock wrote:Play any modern computer game ....Deschanel wrote: And there's nothing you do on a PC you can't do on a Mac.
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And if one actually comes out for the Mac, not having to sell a kidney to afford it, or re-mortgage your house to buy new hardware to run it ....
I now always have a 100gb partition purely for Windows gaming. For everything else, I use OS X Leopard.
Lovely.
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- glennjridge
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theoretically that would cancel out the safety of the MAC if you are runnig duo OS's. I wonder if it is better for MAC users now as far as games and certain programs. for a while it always seemed they got games long after they had been out for the PC.
at the MAC store where I live at least, theres slim pickins for games.
at the MAC store where I live at least, theres slim pickins for games.
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psbste
Or just install leopard onto your pc like i have...
Quadcore processor Q6600
4GB ram
2TB HDD....
Nvidia 8800gts 640mb Graphics card
Who said you cant live the unrestricted mac experience on a pc ... with faster specs and no errors updating .... lol... flawless.....
If you just cant resist the temptaion then go buy from an apple store, but factor in applecare and extended warranty add another £350 to the price.....
Quadcore processor Q6600
4GB ram
2TB HDD....
Nvidia 8800gts 640mb Graphics card
Who said you cant live the unrestricted mac experience on a pc ... with faster specs and no errors updating .... lol... flawless.....
If you just cant resist the temptaion then go buy from an apple store, but factor in applecare and extended warranty add another £350 to the price.....
- Deschanel
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If you're serious about games, gee, there's X-Box, Playstation, and Wii. If games are THAT important to you, why not get a damn dedicated machine?
If you want to install PC games on a Mac, you can. You have to installl Windows too, but god knows PSB Community hates paying a cent for anything digital (koff!). It's not that hard. Amazing that people bitch that iMacs are expensive (US$ 999 for a starter) but will pay nearly that much for a PC vulnerable to viruses- so go get PC software for viruses, add that to the cost. Add also to the cost the time you spend sweeping your PC for viruses. What is your time worth doing these chores too?
Macs aren't perfect. Strangely, nothing in life is. But most PC's are really desperately far from perfect. If you want a pleasing computer experience free from viruses, spyware, trojan horses, and all that noise, stop being a tightwad, get a Mac for $100 more. Not rocket science, just can't believe what PC people have to put up with.
Note to Glenn: it's Mac as in Macintosh, or iMac. Not MAC in screaming caps, that's an Internet protocol that means something quite different.
If you want to install PC games on a Mac, you can. You have to installl Windows too, but god knows PSB Community hates paying a cent for anything digital (koff!). It's not that hard. Amazing that people bitch that iMacs are expensive (US$ 999 for a starter) but will pay nearly that much for a PC vulnerable to viruses- so go get PC software for viruses, add that to the cost. Add also to the cost the time you spend sweeping your PC for viruses. What is your time worth doing these chores too?
Macs aren't perfect. Strangely, nothing in life is. But most PC's are really desperately far from perfect. If you want a pleasing computer experience free from viruses, spyware, trojan horses, and all that noise, stop being a tightwad, get a Mac for $100 more. Not rocket science, just can't believe what PC people have to put up with.
Note to Glenn: it's Mac as in Macintosh, or iMac. Not MAC in screaming caps, that's an Internet protocol that means something quite different.
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I won't comment on the pros and cons of a Mac V PC because quite frankly, it's been done to death and neither side can claim a victory.
But ... I can tell you than a PC quite comprehensively beats any other system when it comes to gaming. It's an ever evolving system, the only one that keeps up with technology, and the only one sophisticated enough to handle intricate and indepth games. (Try playing Medieval Total War II or a modern Flight Sim on a console ....
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Games are a damn sight cheaper too compared to the console version, and can be modded and have expansions added far easier.
Sure, they're generally more expensive than a console, but then so is a Ferrari compared to a Ford if you were looking at racing prowess.
Can I ask all the Mac owners that play games, what graphics cards they are using ? Did you add an aftermarket card ? Chipset and the variant of it please.
But ... I can tell you than a PC quite comprehensively beats any other system when it comes to gaming. It's an ever evolving system, the only one that keeps up with technology, and the only one sophisticated enough to handle intricate and indepth games. (Try playing Medieval Total War II or a modern Flight Sim on a console ....
Games are a damn sight cheaper too compared to the console version, and can be modded and have expansions added far easier.
Sure, they're generally more expensive than a console, but then so is a Ferrari compared to a Ford if you were looking at racing prowess.
Can I ask all the Mac owners that play games, what graphics cards they are using ? Did you add an aftermarket card ? Chipset and the variant of it please.