I don't know if she wanted to copy our boys in some way.
I know Pop Art was an artistic fashion created by Andy Warhol in the 70's but who knows?.
PSB = POPART, Lady Gaga = ARTPOP
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I've just googled "artpop" and see that it's Lady Gaga's new tattoo that is, apparently, the subject of this thread.
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Re: PSB = POPART, Lady Gaga = ARTPOP
Pop Art was around before Warhol.nickname wrote:I don't know if she wanted to copy our boys in some way.
I know Pop Art was an artistic fashion created by Andy Warhol in the 70's but who knows?.
Lady Gaga copying somebody else's ideas is pretty much par for the course in her tracing paper career.
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I mentioned this in the psb part of the forum. glad others heard about this. while its no big deal...and as has been said above the term probably has been around before the PSB ...theres no way she didnt base this off coming across the psb's popart cd somehow as she worked with them,maybe checking out their catalog. she was probably like....hey! nobody in america knows who they are so I can rip the title off and just switch it
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Re: PSB = POPART, Lady Gaga = ARTPOP
Mid fifties/sixties. There were others before Warhol, but he became famous with it in the sixties,nickname wrote: I know Pop Art was an artistic fashion created by Andy Warhol in the 70's but who knows?.
also Roy Lichtenstein. ; )
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Duchamp (1917) is arguably the father of postmodern popart, though this is debatable....
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What Pani said is correct.
And oh god, the macho Abstract Expressionist painters in NYC did not take it well, at all. They thought Pop Art, and Warhol in particular, was sheer effete decadance. They weren't necessarily wrong. They considered Warhol a commercial artist and a fairy (true) and they would not let him join their boys' club in the art world of the late 50's. It's forgotten now, when Warhols sell for stratospheric prices, Andy was never well-regarded in the art world proper, among artists' artists. He spent the 70's doing portraits for anyone who had the money to afford one. He was kind of loathed by other painters, like my teachers at art school even in the late 80's. He never got any respect in the proper art world when he was alive. Now he's a god, there. It's a funny thing. Andy made his own world, when he was rejected by the art world. And his world had dark power, it really prefigured now. With a large body count along the way since the 60's, his entourage of stars burning out on drugs. Dying young. It's a fascinating thing. But yeah, after the intial media buzz of Pop Art wore off, Warhol switched to film and happenings and ..socializing. He was really really not very well respected by other artists when he was alive, except when youngsters like Haring and Basquiat who idolized him gave him a jolt. They appreciated Warhol's hustling and commercial sense in a way older artists thought just beyond the pale. But that's very now, isn't it? Gotta hustle, gotta sell yourself. It's everywhere. Warhol won, in the long run. But he wouldn't have had to go be whay he became, creating those scenes and that kind of art and notoriety, if the art world had accepted him when he was young. They rejected him, he created his own art world.
(Lichtenstein is such a minor artist. Found his schtick, stuck with it ad infinitum. Comic books were an actually great 20th century American popular art form, although disreputable, trashy. Lichtenstein's paintings were a snobby "commentary" on that trashy art-form, for an educated elite. I'm sure they all had a chuckle. He looked down on his source material as inferior, Warhol honestly never did. He really did love Campbell's soup, was fascinated by tabloid disasters. He was funnily sincere, Lichtenstein was mocking such low-class things as comic books. Which, screw him, 20th century comic books were a pretty great and vital form of pop media, way before he deigned to make fun of it, the actual comics he freely ripped off were better and more alive than his replicating them on a gallery wall for eggheads to be amused by the "ironic" vulgarity of them. Lichtenstein was a snobby hack. )
And oh god, the macho Abstract Expressionist painters in NYC did not take it well, at all. They thought Pop Art, and Warhol in particular, was sheer effete decadance. They weren't necessarily wrong. They considered Warhol a commercial artist and a fairy (true) and they would not let him join their boys' club in the art world of the late 50's. It's forgotten now, when Warhols sell for stratospheric prices, Andy was never well-regarded in the art world proper, among artists' artists. He spent the 70's doing portraits for anyone who had the money to afford one. He was kind of loathed by other painters, like my teachers at art school even in the late 80's. He never got any respect in the proper art world when he was alive. Now he's a god, there. It's a funny thing. Andy made his own world, when he was rejected by the art world. And his world had dark power, it really prefigured now. With a large body count along the way since the 60's, his entourage of stars burning out on drugs. Dying young. It's a fascinating thing. But yeah, after the intial media buzz of Pop Art wore off, Warhol switched to film and happenings and ..socializing. He was really really not very well respected by other artists when he was alive, except when youngsters like Haring and Basquiat who idolized him gave him a jolt. They appreciated Warhol's hustling and commercial sense in a way older artists thought just beyond the pale. But that's very now, isn't it? Gotta hustle, gotta sell yourself. It's everywhere. Warhol won, in the long run. But he wouldn't have had to go be whay he became, creating those scenes and that kind of art and notoriety, if the art world had accepted him when he was young. They rejected him, he created his own art world.
(Lichtenstein is such a minor artist. Found his schtick, stuck with it ad infinitum. Comic books were an actually great 20th century American popular art form, although disreputable, trashy. Lichtenstein's paintings were a snobby "commentary" on that trashy art-form, for an educated elite. I'm sure they all had a chuckle. He looked down on his source material as inferior, Warhol honestly never did. He really did love Campbell's soup, was fascinated by tabloid disasters. He was funnily sincere, Lichtenstein was mocking such low-class things as comic books. Which, screw him, 20th century comic books were a pretty great and vital form of pop media, way before he deigned to make fun of it, the actual comics he freely ripped off were better and more alive than his replicating them on a gallery wall for eggheads to be amused by the "ironic" vulgarity of them. Lichtenstein was a snobby hack. )