Broken Britain

[Drico One]

If you are suggesting the people should have their rights reduced based purely on their religion or ethnicity, then you are indeed being racist, JSDOUVRES.

If you are suggesting that a murderer should be dealt with by the full force of the law, then I agree with you.

If you are suggesting that identifiable terrorists should be jailed or prevented from coming into the country, I agree with you.

If you are suggesting that people should not have the right to a peaceful protest - however tasteless that may seem to you - then I disagree with you.

If you are suggesting that I have something to do with this murder - just as you suggested, last week that I was somehow responsible for the rape of children by a paedophile gang - I'll probably just laugh at you again.

I hope that's clear.

Drico.

[Undertaker]

Does anyone know if Boya Dee got to the shop and bought sutn?

[raggatwin]

I have a feeling this thread might kick off again...

So what's your opinion on it then? Do you have a view? Or are you scared to express one? I wouldn't be suprised if you were, there are plenty of people on this site waiting to attack you if you did.

I personally feel sorry for the attackers, they do live in a country that allows them to hate based on freedom of speech and their human rights now, don't they?

Oh I have a view and no i'm not scared to post it but I don't know the full facts tbh. If it's right what the rumours are suggesting, i'd give them both the death penalty and I pray they are currently conscious and suffering unbearably. Also, if it is terrorism, i'd be rounding up their close friends and family and shooting them too because these will have all known what these two cowards were about to do.

What evidence do you have for that?

[raggatwin]

In a country that absolutely disgracefully allows Muslim fanatics to picket the funerals of dead soldiers returned from duty, this was just a question of time wasn't it? In America soldiers are rightfully seen as heroes yet here religious fanatics are freely allowed to abuse them. Would never happen in America and should never be allowed to happen here either. But we continue to allow these evil fanatics to abuse because of their "human rights". Absolutely scandalous. I suppose I'm being racist again, hey Drico?

What like westboro baptist church you mean?......lol

[JSDOUVRES]

If you are suggesting the people should have their rights reduced based purely on their religion or ethnicity, then you are indeed being racist, JSDOUVRES.

If you are suggesting that a murderer should be dealt with by the full force of the law, then I agree with you.

If you are suggesting that identifiable extremists should be jailed or prevented from coming into the country, I agree with you.

If you are suggesting that people should not have the right to a peaceful protest - however tasteless that may seem to you - then I disagree with you.

If you are suggesting that I have something to do with this murder - just as you suggested, last week that I was somehow responsible for the rape of children by a paedophile gang, I'll probably just laugh at you again.

I hope that's clear.

Drico.

Good, then you agree with me for once, apart for the one on peaceful protest, if it is inciting hatred to Soldiers or other groups then it should not be allowed, because it breeds hatred which leads to events like today. Those scum that burned the poppys a few years back should never have been allowed to do it. They got £50 fines didn't they? Disgusting. Religious fanatics should never be allowed to spread hatred, whether it be peaceful or not, surely you can't disagree with that?

And I am merely blaming people with your kind of "can't say that it might be seen as racist" attitude for what happened in those paedophile cases. People that try to shut people up who have the balls to tell the truth about what is happening without it being turned into a "race" issue. I've seen it all on here far too many times.

[raggatwin]

One man, wielding the sword of truth, the gospel according to the daily mail....lol

[JSDOUVRES]

One man, wielding the sword of truth, the gospel according to the daily mail....lol

Yeah the daily mail shouldn't be reporting on this should they? They must be racist.

[Drico One]

Good, then you agree with me for once, apart for the one on peaceful protest, if it is inciting hatred to Soldiers or other groups then it should not be allowed, because it breeds hatred which leads to events like today.

If something incites hatred, that's usually illegal. You can't accuse a protest of "inciting hatred" just because you might disagree with the protest. I think people are entitled to peacefully protest against British foreign policy if they disagree with it. That's called democracy.

Religious fanatics should never be allowed to spread hatred, whether it be peaceful or not, surely you can't disagree with that?

If I had my way, I'd ban all religion - but that's tantamount to banning stupidity. It's an impossible dream. Anybody who incites hatred should be dealt with by the law.

And I am merely blaming people with your kind of "can't say that it might be seen as racist" attitude for what happened in those paedophile cases.

I don't have a "can't say that - it might be seen as racist" attitude. I have a "you can say that, but it is racist and I might ban you for breaking the forum rules" attitude.

People that try to shut people up who have the balls to tell the truth about what is happening without it being turned into a "race" issue. I've seen it all on here far too many times.

Nobody has tried to shut you up. I could ban you on the spot, so if I wanted to shut you up I would just press a button. So, when will I be getting that apology for linking me with the paedophile rape of children?

Drico.

[JSDOUVRES]

So in your so called "democracy" you are telling me that you personally believe I am racist so may ban me? Is that how it works?

And "In my free opinion" the paedophile gangs got away with what they did for so long because the rapist involved were Muslim's and so the authorities didn't report them for fear of being branded "racist", something that I am being branded right here because I have the balls to talk about such things.

Feel free to agree or disagree with my opinions, and if you think I am racist that is your problem. I care about my country and have views about immigration that are shared by a lot of people. If that makes me racist then my name is John Barnes.

[Undertaker]

What evidence do you have for that?

None and it was a bit over the top to be honest but I do think their close friends and family should be grilled (not on an oven) because imo, there will be others involved in some form.

[raggatwin]

Okay. Fair enough.

[Drico One]

So in your so called "democracy" you are telling me that you personally believe I am racist so may ban me? Is that how it works?

Firstly, I'm telling you that this is an Internet forum, not a democracy. Secondly, I'm telling you that if you break forum rules - and the posting of racist sentiment is contrary to the forum rules - then, yes, you may be subject to moderation or a ban. But you know that because that's what you signed up to.

And "In my free opinion" the paedophile gangs got away with what they did for so long because the rapist involved were Muslim's and so the authorities didn't report them for fear of being branded "racist"

That's one possibility.

something that I am being branded right here because I have the balls to talk about such things.

Lots of people talk about immigration. They also talk about other issues. You talk about little other than immigration. It's this lack of balance - coupled with some staggeringly prejudiced remarks - that gives me an impression of you.

Feel free to agree or disagree with my opinions, and if you think I am racist that is your problem.

I think some of your views are ignorant and uninformed. That's not a problem for me, though. If I held some of your views, it would most definitely be a problem for me.

I care about my country and have views about immigration that are shared by a lot of people. If that makes me racist then my name is John Barnes.

Lots of people hold ignorant views. That doesn't make them right. Do you have views on unemployment, inequality, economic recession, and foreign policy, too, you know, massive issues in "Broken Britain" at the moment, because we rarely get to hear them in this thread. Perhaps if we did, you might portray a more balanced and rounded impression of yourself.

Anyway, I've nothing more to add to this. Please don't drag me any further into this discussion when some random atrocity occurs.

Drico.

[raggatwin]

Stand by. Muslim rape gangs on channel 4 tomorrow nighr.

Jimmy Saville is a paedophole. All white men are paedophiles. Not.

[JSDOUVRES]

So in your so called "democracy" you are telling me that you personally believe I am racist so may ban me? Is that how it works?

Firstly, I'm telling you that this is an Internet forum, not a democracy. Secondly, I'm telling you that if you break forum rules - and the posting of racist sentiment is contrary to the forum rules - then, yes, you may be subject to moderation or a ban. But you know that because that's what you signed up to.

And "In my free opinion" the paedophile gangs got away with what they did for so long because the rapist involved were Muslim's and so the authorities didn't report them for fear of being branded "racist"

That's one possibility.

something that I am being branded right here because I have the balls to talk about such things.

Lots of people talk about immigration. They also talk about other issues. You talk about little other than immigration. It's this lack of balance - coupled with some staggeringly prejudiced remarks - that gives me an impression of you.

Feel free to agree or disagree with my opinions, and if you think I am racist that is your problem.

I think some of your views are ignorant and uninformed. That's not a problem for me, though. If I held some of your views, it would most definitely be a problem for me.

I care about my country and have views about immigration that are shared by a lot of people. If that makes me racist then my name is John Barnes.

Lots of people hold ignorant views. That doesn't make them right. Do you have views on unemployment, inequality, economic recession, and foreign policy, too, you know, massive issues in "Broken Britain" at the moment, because we rarely get to hear them in this thread. Perhaps if we did, you might portray a more balanced and rounded impression of yourself.

Anyway, I've nothing more to add to this. Please don't drag me any further into this discussion when some random atrocity occurs.

Drico.

You see my views as unbalanced because you want them to be, Is having opinions about being balanced? Do I have to write about an equal percentage of stories of all race's as not to be racist? Is that how it works? I don't think so. Isn't that racist? And anyway, these Paedophile gangs are British citizens aren't they?

And saying that it is one possibility that these rapists were not reported because of their race is pretty poor really. It should be seen as scandalous by everybody because it is itself racist at the end of the day isn't it?

I care a lot about my country and like I have said many times I see over immigration here as a huge problem. That does not make me racist, I have nothing against the people coming here I just don't believe so many should be, that's all. If you believe that we have the jobs, schools, housing, hospitals etc that we need then fine, that's your opinion but I do not believe we do. And with over a million young people out of work I think I have a point. And yes, some of them are lazy but that is no excuse.

I am no racist, I have a varied group of friends and it is sickening that I cannot write about stories in a Broken Britain thread without being called one. I can be as balanced/inbalanced as I want, there are no rules. Would you be accusing me or racism if I only wrote about British white crimes/problems? No you would not. Because it would not threaten your "race issue" conscience.

I am proud I have the courage to write about such apparently touching issues.

[raggatwin]

Some of my best friends are coons and queers.....