solarin wrote: Thu 01 Feb 2024, 6:20 pm
I like a lot the song, not love, but it's quite good for me.
I'm reading some critics about the production of other songs of James Ford, but i love many songs that he has done with Jessie Ware, and this song has many of the details that i like so much.
And i believe that the Boys were looking for that sound exactly.
The musical parts are glorious.
The lyrics are ok.
It's a Pet Shop Boys song but a little different.
Agree with that, in fact I think we'll see in the new album a very warm sound.
I want you to listen this song of Jessie Ware, I think this could be the tone of the arrangements of James Ford for PSB (in a more electronic way but something similar):
The more I listen to Loneliness, the more I like it. There's a lot of detail in it, and I really like the structure.
The string sound at the beginning is ethereal. Up into a single verse and straight into a half chorus, which gets it going nice and quickly. The second chorus gets part B, "when you gonna.." which is very satisfying, melodically. The instrumentation builds each time the chorus comes round. "Everybody needs time to think, nobody can live without love" is a really nice brief break, before the chorus gets going again.
It's really well put-together, and I keep hearing more backing vocals.
While I adore the Stuart Price era in all its digital glory, it is nice to hear some real instruments again. The track has a lovely feeling of space in it. So far I think James Ford is an excellent producer for the Pets, bringing a fresh energy for the Nonetheless era.
Harry wrote: Fri 02 Feb 2024, 12:42 pm
The more I listen to Loneliness, the more I like it. There's a lot of detail in it, and I really like the structure.
The string sound at the beginning is ethereal. Up into a single verse and straight into a half chorus, which gets it going nice and quickly. The second chorus gets part B, "when you gonna.." which is very satisfying, melodically. The instrumentation builds each time the chorus comes round. "Everybody needs time to think, nobody can live without love" is a really nice brief break, before the chorus gets going again.
It's really well put-together, and I keep hearing more backing vocals.
While I adore the Stuart Price era in all its digital glory, it is nice to hear some real instruments again. The track has a lovely feeling of space in it. So far I think James Ford is an excellent producer for the Pets, bringing a fresh energy for the Nonetheless era.
Harry wrote: Fri 02 Feb 2024, 12:42 pm
The more I listen to Loneliness, the more I like it. There's a lot of detail in it, and I really like the structure.
The string sound at the beginning is ethereal. Up into a single verse and straight into a half chorus, which gets it going nice and quickly. The second chorus gets part B, "when you gonna.." which is very satisfying, melodically. The instrumentation builds each time the chorus comes round. "Everybody needs time to think, nobody can live without love" is a really nice brief break, before the chorus gets going again.
It's really well put-together, and I keep hearing more backing vocals.
While I adore the Stuart Price era in all its digital glory, it is nice to hear some real instruments again. The track has a lovely feeling of space in it. So far I think James Ford is an excellent producer for the Pets, bringing a fresh energy for the Nonetheless era.
Harry wrote: Fri 02 Feb 2024, 12:42 pm
The more I listen to Loneliness, the more I like it. There's a lot of detail in it, and I really like the structure.
The string sound at the beginning is ethereal. Up into a single verse and straight into a half chorus, which gets it going nice and quickly. The second chorus gets part B, "when you gonna.." which is very satisfying, melodically. The instrumentation builds each time the chorus comes round. "Everybody needs time to think, nobody can live without love" is a really nice brief break, before the chorus gets going again.
It's really well put-together, and I keep hearing more backing vocals.
While I adore the Stuart Price era in all its digital glory, it is nice to hear some real instruments again. The track has a lovely feeling of space in it. So far I think James Ford is an excellent producer for the Pets, bringing a fresh energy for the Nonetheless era.
Excellent analysis. It does have a really unusual shape, which makes it intriguing - having listened to it a dozen or so times, I still don't know quite what to expect when I do so. Surprised to see someone here say it's similar to Together, which is a song that really didn't need to be listened to more than once.
Sorry, I did not like it very much. I expected better. It lacks a "Big Time" moment like Opportunities (do you call it a bridge) or a magnificient build-up towards the end like Left To My Own Devices or an irresistable hook like Always on my mind. Will‐o‐the‐wisp from Hotspot is way better than this and I was very enthuastic after hearing that song that the Boys have not lost their ability to write great freight train-like pop gems. But this? Maybe a good b side in imperial times. Doesn't it sound similar to "A Certain 'Je Ne Sais Quoi", the Winner b-side or Inner Sanctum (but weaker than both of them)?.
I do not think it will appeal to an audience beyond hardcore PSB fans like us. It will probably grow on me and I accept that any material from the Boys is much better than from contemporary music but I must say I am disappointed for now.
At least it is not a snooze-fest like Burning the Heather, which had put me off Hotspot for a long time. Thank God for small favours.
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Dog wrote: Thu 01 Feb 2024, 10:10 pm
Assume there will be a remix bundle within the coming weeks, and maybe a 12” too.
Let’s hope so !
If remixed then I hope they go for the part between 03:10 - 03:55 (album version) and enhance it so it becomes more a dance/disco track and hopefully get success in the US billboard dance charts.
Love the artwork (best since ‘Leaving’). Love the video. Like the music and the orchestra but I am getting b side vibes from it (specifically “Searching for the face of Jesus “ melody and “Before” vocals. The vocal is strained and grating, especially in the first two verses. I needed a banger to wash my ears out from “Wedding in Berlin.” No show.
dbaseboy wrote: Fri 02 Feb 2024, 2:33 pm
It’s just been made BBC Radio 2’s Record of the Week.
In YouTube comments, an Erasure fan wrote that the new single (I forgot the song's name) was way better than Loneliness but BBC 2 would probably still choose Loneliness as the Record of the Week but he hoped that BBC2 would come to their senses this time and choose the Erasure song instead. Still no luck there, lol
dbaseboy wrote: Fri 02 Feb 2024, 2:33 pm
It’s just been made BBC Radio 2’s Record of the Week.
In YouTube comments, an Erasure fan wrote that the new single (I forgot the song's name) was way better than Loneliness but BBC 2 would probably still choose Loneliness as the Record of the Week but he hoped that BBC2 would come to their senses this time and choose the Erasure song instead. Still no luck there, lol
Does Erasure even have brand new music out? There's only a Vince Clarke solo album, very sombre and ambient, pretty good actually.
That’s the thing about negative energy, about hatred. It can be positive. It throws into relief all the things you know you like. It tells you, by elimination, what you’re about. Sometimes you can only define yourself by what you hate. Hatred becomes an inspiration; it makes you think, “What I’m doing now I totally believe in, and I don’t care what other people say.” Guided by hatred, you don’t have to follow the herd. - Neil Tennant
