Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless

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#2386 Post by Sammy Jenkis »

Always is a lovely tune and one of their best 21st century b-sides in my opinion.

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#2387 Post by NOBODY75 »

Sammy Jenkis wrote: Mon 10 Aug 2026, 10:17 am Always is a lovely tune and one of their best 21st century b-sides in my opinion.
Totally agree

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#2388 Post by Birthday Boy »

Always is one of my favourite b-sides for sure, I love it a lot. While I enjoy the music (despite it's slight weirdness), my favourite part about the song are definitely the lyrics. In my opinion, they are among Neil's most beautiful, and I love their comforting qualities. Thematically, it's something I can relate to very well, since year after year I'm feeling a little depressed about summer ending and winter coming way too soon - in fact, this thought has already been creeping up again during the last few days. Of course, you could probably also interpret these lyrics as a general metaphor for something good ending and a bleak period beginning, in which case I probably like them even more. Things may be bad now, and it could be like that for a while, but remember that summer comes, always.
A true happy-sad song. It is what they do best.

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#2389 Post by Patrick Bateman »

Another b-side that would have significantly improved Release. It is incredible that they could listen to such a strong song and think it was inferior to E-mail or TNIFIL.

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#2390 Post by retrofuturist »

Greetings,

Always is excellent... they curate such an interesting soundscape here.

If the arpeggio were played on an acoustic guitar with a bit of reverb, it would slot straight onto Release.

Retro. :)
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#2391 Post by MikeyC »

A gorgeous song! I love it!

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#2392 Post by petshopgrrl »

davidctecno wrote: Mon 10 Aug 2026, 6:34 am Track 158: Always
Chronology: Release FL CD1:12


A beatiful melancholic track. Revived during the Obscure concerts. It surpasses the acoustic approach of the *Release* album, highlighting its synthetic elegance.One of the best B-sides!

I love the math rhyme: "You go from A to B to C on demand like algebra or geometry diagrammed"
Indeed! It warms the cockles of my nerdy little heart.

I was a late convert to this one. I first heard it after buying Format and thought it was a bit of a letdown, sandwiched as it was between Sexy Northerner and Nightlife on my playlist. However, it would keep cropping up later on random play and I got to appreciate the quiet beauty of it. It's the aural equivalent of a Snuggie and a hot chocolate on a winter's day.
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#2393 Post by Lleonard Pler »

Mesmerising melody. If they are known masters of making sad lyrics sound happy, this time they turn the formula around and take the lyrics into a sadder song than they actually are. Album worthy.

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#2394 Post by VRIDD »

This whole topic is full of posts about b-sides that are so good that they should have been included in some album instead of some other weaker songs.

Somehow, all of these posts assume that the rank of album track is higher than the rank of b-side. And they assume that the main goal for an artist should be to release very strong albums.

I do not think this is Pet Shop Boys point of view!

I think PSB main goal has always been to release very strong singles, and I think that PSB consider b-sides not inferior to album tracks.

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#2395 Post by Lleonard Pler »

VRIDD wrote: Tue 11 Aug 2026, 11:20 am This whole topic is full of posts about b-sides that are so good that they should have been included in some album instead of some other weaker songs.

Somehow, all of these posts assume that the rank of album track is higher than the rank of b-side. And they assume that the main goal for an artist should be to release very strong albums.

I do not think this is Pet Shop Boys point of view!

I think PSB main goal has always been to release very strong singles, and I think that PSB consider b-sides not inferior to album tracks.
I don't know, they take care of the whole package. Good singles with good remixes and good bsides, but belonging to a very solid album, thus they usually have a "concept" for it.

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#2396 Post by Gabby »

I think I need to revisit some of the latter B-Sides. I always considered Always to be rather plodding - but the comments here get me thinking I need to delve a little deeper on listening.

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#2397 Post by NOBODY75 »

Gabby wrote: Wed 12 Aug 2026, 1:13 pm I think I need to revisit some of the latter B-Sides. I always considered Always to be rather plodding - but the comments here get me thinking I need to delve a little deeper on listening.
Well, let us know if your perception of Always improves.

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#2398 Post by rathound »

It took me a few listens back to see why it was so highly rated tbh. I've never paid to much attention to it before. I don't love it but can see why its popular, its a good song

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