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markrobertnolan wrote:

Disco. wrote:#191 this week, last week #102. sales 24k.

Is that worldwide ? No, ofcourse not U.K only. Sales now at 26.5k

Electric had at this time in its chartlife sold a bit more than Super.

Super - world sales - noto sure, but definitely sure that 160,000 iTunes sales in total, which is not bad for a band whose fan base are physical sales oriented

Super - world sales - not too sure, but definitely sure that 160,000 iTunes sales in total, which is not bad for a band whose fan base are physical sales oriented

it'll sell more copies this as a result of their festival touring driving sales among the uninitiated

likely to finish up at around 250k globally, which isn't terrible in an age of much diminished album sales

jamie1978 wrote: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 6:54 pm it'll sell more copies this as a result of their festival touring driving sales among the uninitiated

likely to finish up at around 250k globally, which isn't terrible in an age of much diminished album sales

And much tighter budgets. Let's face it: Ever since they joined Kobalt, the production has been stripped down to a producer and an engineer and an occassional background singer. Gone are the days of lavish orchestras.

I don't miss the lavish orchestras. There's only so many times you can pull that trick before your essence is drowned in overblown stringage.

Which is why I am strangely cold to the idea of them performing with philharmonic orchestras and a token Johnny Marr. There wasn't an orchestra in sight on Please, and there's an argument that their raw sound is them at their definitive best.

Drico.

alig wrote: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 8:20 pm
And much tighter budgets. Let's face it: Ever since they joined Kobalt, the production has been stripped down to a producer and an engineer and an occassional background singer. Gone are the days of lavish orchestras.

that is intentional, surely - both Electric and Super are electronic albums, and music technology is so cheap and accessible these days that you don't need a lavish studio with numerous personnel to create brilliant electronic music

Drico One wrote: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 9:38 pm Which is why I am strangely cold to the idea of them performing with philharmonic orchestras and a token Johnny Marr. There wasn't an orchestra in sight on Please, and there's an argument that their raw sound is them at their definitive best.

such as the Barfly performance, which is the one performance I missed that I most wish I could have attended

jamie1978 wrote: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 10:31 pm

alig wrote: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 8:20 pm
And much tighter budgets. Let's face it: Ever since they joined Kobalt, the production has been stripped down to a producer and an engineer and an occassional background singer. Gone are the days of lavish orchestras.

that is intentional, surely - both Electric and Super are electronic albums, and music technology is so cheap and accessible these days that you don't need a lavish studio with numerous personnel to create brilliant electronic music

Very true, and, more to the point, you don't need a real orchestra anymore.

I must admit to be underwelmed by the Concrete show with all its additional musicians and orchestras.

Woulda sounded just as good without the band of musical luvvies joining in (backing vocals too)

Yes, possibly the days of lavish orchestras are gone. But I'm not so sure that the "sound" is. Production technology/techniques have improved so much over the last decade. Now consider the massive backlog of real orchestral samples/sounds the PSB own (and have used in the past)... and I wouldn't rule anything out... at least from the listener's perspective.

Also, don't forget potential (future) one-off projects with the BBC, etc.

But, generally, I think you're right, the more stripped-down sound suits them well (harkening back to Please). It's a more current sound, and I strongly suspect the PSB will benefit form it... as they gave been doing recently

-Zog

OK so in the end has it sold 80.000 or 250.000?

Mono wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 9:32 am OK so in the end has it sold 80.000 or 250.000?

Would be interesting to know the sales after 3 years.

Any update on the UK figures? My guess is 40K..?

By February 2017:33,041. So 40,000 by now is probably not far off the mark.

Left To My Own Devices is both orchestral and their manifesto

Fundamental had a great blend of orchestra and electronic. We'll see that again.