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glennjridge wrote:what is inherintly bad about a police officer asking for your information?

We don't live in a police state and there's no compelling reason we should. The state doesn't have the moral right to invade our privacy without just cause.

Why would they be invading your privacy?

I like to see the streets full of the old bill. Apparently here in the U.K, there is going to be a massive influx of police back on the beat. About time as well. And if a copper stopped me and asked me whatever, as long as they didn't go on a power trip, i wouldn't be offended.

Still, i don't see why i should have an i.d card when i'm living in the country i was born. How much information will they have on these cards anyway?

Dave

undertaker wrote:Why would they be invading your privacy?

Where do you draw the line? What information is off limits? Why?

I like to see the streets full of the old bill.

It's great in theory. But what happens when the government decides that some of your rights aren't rights after all? When it decides it's time to round up certain groups (such as Japanese Americans during WW2 or Thatcher's plans for AIDS patients)?

And if a copper stopped me and asked me whatever, as long as they didn't go on a power trip, i wouldn't be offended.

I would be. For what reasons are they stopping and questioning you? Because you've got a dark skin tone, you're wearing trackie bottoms, you've got a bag, they just don't like the look of you?

I think it's a massive invasion of privacy. The police should be visible but there for the public to approach, not the other way round, unless something criminal is taking place. How dare they decide to select 'random' people and have them justify their existence and explain their, by and large perfectly legitimate, actions.

Integral must be single! if you don´t think so you are stupid really stupid

patrick wrote:

stew wrote:I personally still dont get what his problem with ID cards is I really dont.

"I want to see your papers!"
ID cards are a Nazi obscenity.

Not really thought of it in that way, but yes, I think that too. I just hadn't associated Nazi, but now I realise yes. However, it is what the card does in terms of your privacy and where it develops you want to worry about. Research Revelations and 2012, possibly 2006.

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1128/38/
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/opinion.htm
I personally am not sure on how nuts this guy is or not, but I think there is a lot more to this world. I also think that anyone getting on the right lines is not going to be wanted to stay there. That means you need to discredit them.

Also see www.thesecret.tv and watch the video stream.
It makes you think and any questioning, rather than just accepting IMHO is a good thing.
You've already excepted the smoking rules. What about rights? And I don't smoke.

When terrorists things begin to happen in the world, think, "Problem, reaction, solution!"
Without reading from DI stuff that I've found on the web, I heard this in a sales pitch given to me at Phones 4 U.

I've realised something about this world is that everything happens for a reason and every thing that happens balances something else.

Good for Neil Tennant making a stand, listen to his lyrics as music can be a very good medium of opinions. Not always right, but they may be less manipulated than say BBC or newspapers. Who use words such as brave and evil etc to manipulate your perceptions and interpretations. The human race needs to learn to think for itself and not what people say.