Happy Birthday Charles Darwin.

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Going to his house and sitting in the chairs that he sat in was one of those moments when you pause and reflect on someone's greatness.
Ambition achieved....

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#17 Post by Your Funny Uncle »

Here's the thing: Evolution is now a very well established scientific principle. If you want to get a handle on how it works there are many books and websites you could read as well as TV shows you could watch.

If you want to get deeper into it you could study biology and then you'd be able to read and understand the latest ideas and participate in the peer review process. This is the core of the scientific method; scientists report exactly the experiments that lead them to form new theories so that others can repeat them and either agree or point out the flaws in their methods or assumptions.

Nothing in science is accepted simply on someone else's say-so. That's why it's such a powerful method for finding out about the world.
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#18 Post by gregf »

I always thought of them more as legends than fairy tales: Stories like that of King Arthur
and Robin Hood that may have some vague basis in historical fact but are essentially made up...
King Arthur is interesting. While most of it is made up, there is some evidence that after the Romans
pulled out of Brittania :shifty: a Roman/Briton general fought the Anglo-Saxons. And his name was
Arcturius. Also there was a fort at Camelodeum. Not believing, but interesting.

Another good point to Evolution is molecular biology. The DNA molecule is near perfect as bio-memory
that allows gradual change, i.e. evolution. It is almost as if it is perfectly designed for the job.
In fact DNA is the best evidence there is for Intelligent Design, but they cannot use it without
conceding that Evolution is true.
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#19 Post by Fugitive1979 »

Drico One wrote:It's even funnier when they deny what we can now prove, yet believe fervently in what are essentially fairy tales. The clincher for me is the clever way they make a virtue of believing in something that any rational mind would dismiss out of hand. They call it "faith."

Religion is just organised bigotry.

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gregf wrote: Another good point to Evolution is molecular biology. The DNA molecule is near perfect as bio-memory
that allows gradual change, i.e. evolution. It is almost as if it is perfectly designed for the job.
In fact DNA is the best evidence there is for Intelligent Design, but they cannot use it without
conceding that Evolution is true.
You Greg perfectly summed up the Evolutionism question with these phrases. The structure of the DNA molecule is the best proof that there have been an evolutive process for all the living world. Still, the question is: who, or what did the Intelligent Design? Where does it come from? How life itself and the fantastic Evolution started?
Everytime I see a cute Panda cub for example, I see some kind of confirmation that such perfection needed a (divine?) sparkle to appear.
What remains in time
that didn't fade away?

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#21 Post by Your Funny Uncle »

...and whenever I read about animals like this I think the opposite...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompilidae
A single egg is laid on the abdomen of the spider...
...When the wasp larva hatches it begins to feed on the still-living spider.
For every cute cuddly thing in nature, there exists something nasty and horrible.
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Your Funny Uncle wrote:...and whenever I read about animals like this I think the opposite...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompilidae
A single egg is laid on the abdomen of the spider...
...When the wasp larva hatches it begins to feed on the still-living spider.
For every cute cuddly thing in nature, there exists something nasty and horrible.
Everything on the face of the Earth has its point.
What remains in time
that didn't fade away?

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#23 Post by Fugitive1979 »

Corina wrote:Everything on the face of the Earth has its point.
Except for wasps, jellyfish and Chantelle Houghton.(pic)
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#24 Post by Corina »

Fugitive1979 wrote:
Corina wrote:Everything on the face of the Earth has its point.
Except for wasps, jellyfish and Chantelle Houghton.
If you say... so be it :)

(I don`t understand what`s the connection between that Houghton girl and the url you attached to her name!)
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Corina wrote:
Fugitive1979 wrote:
Corina wrote:Everything on the face of the Earth has its point.
Except for wasps, jellyfish and Chantelle Houghton.
If you say... so be it :)

(I don`t understand what`s the connection between that Houghton girl and the url you attached to her name!)
Don't worry. It was a previous copy and paste I had done. The Wikipedia link mustn't have copied when I pressed copy. All fixed now.
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#26 Post by No Muscle Mary »

I'm with Drico on this one. If we're wrong, we'll probably spend an eternity listening to New York City Boy in hell.... :shock:
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#27 Post by Hillbilly »

I am a true believer in the Evolution! As the first poster asked, why would you think otherwise?

I once made a speech about Darwin in school. I've read "The Origin of Species" - maybe it's time to pick it up again.

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Fugitive1979 wrote:
Corina wrote:Everything on the face of the Earth has its point.
Except for wasps, jellyfish and Chantelle Houghton.(pic)
So even The Saturdays have a point !!!? :shock: - you are demonstrating evolution before our very eyes !

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#29 Post by Fugitive1979 »

df118junkie wrote:So even The Saturdays have a point !!!? :shock: - you are demonstrating evolution before our very eyes !
Yes. Their sole purpose is to send me into apoplectic rage every time they release a record.
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#30 Post by df118junkie »

Admit it, you just can't get enough of them.... :twisted:

My, how this thread has evolved.......
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