Numb first song in three-four time?

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diana · #1 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 1:35 pm

Or has PSB done more songs in three-four time?

Alcibiades · #2 Post by **Alcibiades** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 1:38 pm

"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.

fluffmoln · #3 Post by **fluffmoln** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 1:40 pm

Well, to be exact Can you forgive her? is in 12/8 tempo.

rabagast · #4 Post by **rabagast** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 2:36 pm

Alcibiades wrote:"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.

Well, "Numb" is actuall4 6/8 as well.

"Catastrophe" is also 6/8

Darkmoon · #5 Post by **Darkmoon** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 3:03 pm

How does one 'hear' the difference between 6/8 and 12/8?

diana · #6 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 3:21 pm

rabagast wrote:
Alcibiades wrote:"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.
Well, "Numb" is actuall4 6/8 as well.

"Catastrophe" is also 6/8

Really? I hear definitely óne two three, óne two three, óne two three. That makes Numb so delicate.

diana · #7 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 3:24 pm

Alcibiades wrote:"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.

One two three four Can You Forgive Her! 4/4 in my view

Alcibiades · #8 Post by **Alcibiades** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 3:56 pm

diana wrote:
Alcibiades wrote:"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.
One two three four Can You Forgive Her! 4/4 in my view

It goes:

Ask (one - two - three)
Your (four - five - six)
Self (seven - eight - nine)
Now (ten - eleven - twelve)

therefore 12/8!

Imagine a sped-up version of 'House of the Rising Sun'.

diana · #9 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 4:26 pm

Alcibiades wrote:
diana wrote:
Alcibiades wrote:"Can you forgive her?" of course!

Although that's probably 6/8 rather than 3/4.
One two three four Can You Forgive Her! 4/4 in my view
It goes:

Ask (one - two - three)
Your (four - five - six)
Self (seven - eight - nine)
Now (ten - eleven - twelve)

therefore 12/8!

Imagine a sped-up version of 'House of the Rising Sun'.

Ok, I believe you.

Therefore it is not like Numb. Is it the only song in one two three?

ArseSpanker · #10 Post by **ArseSpanker** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 5:00 pm

House! What do I win?

diana · #11 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 5:49 pm

ArseSpanker wrote:House! What do I win?

Three cd's with waltzes from Johann Strauss.

ArseSpanker · #12 Post by **ArseSpanker** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 8:07 pm

Great. Just what I need.

diana · #13 Post by **diana** » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 9:14 pm

ArseSpanker wrote:Great. Just what I need.

So you agree that this Sherlock Holmes has found out that Numb is the only three-four time song in PSB-history?

Hillbilly · #14 Post by **Hillbilly** » Sun 04 Jun 2006, 9:52 am

diana wrote:
ArseSpanker wrote:Great. Just what I need.
So you agree that this Sherlock Holmes has found out that Numb is the only three-four time song in PSB-history?

That's interesting because I've been thinking about this before (maybe because I'm a musician who plays sheet music). Pet Shop Boys has NEVER written a song in 3/4 waltz tempo! I believe that "Love is a catastrophe" was the first one, although it might be written as 6/8 you can count 1-2-3 on it. The same goes for "Numb", and ironically that's a song they didn't write themselves.

To me, "Can you forgive her" has never been anything else than a regular 4/4 pop soung - although it's possible to count it as Alcibiades suggests, but that's to complicate it.

Maybe we will hear more waltz numbers from the Boys in the future?

diana · #15 Post by **diana** » Sun 04 Jun 2006, 10:36 am

Hillbilly wrote:
Maybe we will hear more waltz numbers from the Boys in the future?

Yesss! More waltzes in the house-music!