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#1 Post by Patrick Bateman »

I haven't seen this film yet but PSB are on the soundtrack like for Saltburn.

https://youtu.be/O97iSjvqBlY?si=QMvuPOq_OkOCE-xR

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"that unexpected key change at the end of the refrain" - hardly anyone talks about this. I assume they mean the 1:04 mark

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Good interview in the Guardian with the director. He's a big Pet-Head.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/d ... igh%20says.
All of Us Strangers is particularly acute in its use of 80s hits such as The Power of Love by Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Johnny Come Home by Fine Young Cannibals and Build by the Housemartins, all of which Adam listens to while mulling over his childhood, and which then becomes part of the supernatural world he visits (he and his parents joyfully put up festive decorations to Pet Shop Boys’ Always on my Mind, Christmas No 1 in 1987). To young gay boys denied role models – especially when section 28 made it illegal for schools and local authorities to offer positive representations of homosexuality – and who were too terrified to disclose our queerness to our dads, gay pop stars like Neil Tennant and Holly Johnson, and also gentle straight frontmen such as Roland Gift and Paul Heaton, were the only people who seemed to point the way to how we might be able to live as grown men.

“Paul Heaton and Roland Gift aren’t queer artists, but they so spoke to me,” Haigh agrees. “I’m sure my political viewpoints are based on listening to the Housemartins” – who were avowedly socialist at the time of the Thatcher government. “Pop music was so important – it gave me hope as a kid. I used to sing The Power of Love to myself in my bedroom, not really understanding anything about myself at that point, but knowing that it was longing for something, and believing that something could be possible. When I put this song in the film, I was thinking that my childhood self would have been so amazed that I’m doing what I’m doing now – able to tell a story about queerness for other people to see, and not be terrified.”

Both characters are not lonely because they’re gay. They are lonely because the world has made them feel different
“I never dreamed that I would get to be / The creature that I always meant to be,” as Pet Shop Boys put it in Being Boring? “Don’t!” Haigh says, who is a diehard fan. “I can’t even listen to that line – it makes me want to burst into tears.”

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Does anyone know if the version of Always on my mind in the trailer was made for the film or has it been released before? Love to hear a full version

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Stussylad7 wrote: Fri 19 Jan 2024, 12:22 pm Does anyone know if the version of Always on my mind in the trailer was made for the film or has it been released before? Love to hear a full version
The Dub mix isn’t it

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joepsb wrote: Fri 19 Jan 2024, 1:56 pm
Stussylad7 wrote: Fri 19 Jan 2024, 12:22 pm Does anyone know if the version of Always on my mind in the trailer was made for the film or has it been released before? Love to hear a full version
The Dub mix isn’t it
Yes. From the 12”Remix single.

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#124 on I-Tunes right now, getting some exposure.From outside the Top 1000

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joepsb wrote: Fri 19 Jan 2024, 1:56 pm
Stussylad7 wrote: Fri 19 Jan 2024, 12:22 pm Does anyone know if the version of Always on my mind in the trailer was made for the film or has it been released before? Love to hear a full version
The Dub mix isn’t it
It’s close to the Dub, but it’s been remixed, and played around with, for this. There’s an additional guitar strum at the front of each chord, which gives it a nice shimmer. The original mix also leaves out, “I never took the time” from the first verse, but it’s present here. It’s beautifully done… the segue into the 7” is as understatedly sublime as the album mix is gloriously overblown…

It’s done the job in that I’m interested to see the film…

As a complete aside, I never understood why a) that mix was called a “Dub” when, by any definition of the word, it’s not. And b) why it fades out rather abruptly in the middle. Chris, though said of it, “I like the way it ends”, so who am I to question?
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Bucky Goldstein wrote: Sat 20 Jan 2024, 6:36 pm I never understood why a) that mix was called a “Dub” when, by any definition of the word, it’s not.
Q: What is a dub mix?

A: The many-layered sounds with varying echoes and volumes are often said to create soundscapes, or sound sculptures, drawing attention to the shape and depth of the space between sounds as well as to the sounds themselves. There is usually a distinctly organic feel to the music, even though the effects are electronically created.

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Dub...from dub reggae....reverb, echo, emphasis on rhythm...scratch perry, king jammy, Augustus Pablo etc.
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Exactly. My understanding is that “dub” originates from the Jamaican dancehalls and is all about rhythm, and especially deep skanking basslines. When applied to 80s 12”s: dub mixes foregrounded beats and bass with minimal or no vocals. In PSB context, think, West End Dub, Opportunities: Dub for money, or indeed the whole of Yes, Etc
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Oops, double post….
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Bucky Goldstein wrote: Sun 21 Jan 2024, 9:57 am Exactly. My understanding is that “dub” originates from the Jamaican dancehalls and is all about rhythm, and especially deep skanking basslines. When applied to 80s 12”s: dub mixes foregrounded beats and bass with minimal or no vocals. In PSB context, think, West End Dub, Opportunities: Dub for money, or indeed the whole of Yes, Etc

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I saw this movie just before Christmas and it was great. PSB have two songs in the film. Always On My Mind is played at a pretty big scene in the movie. Frankie Goes To Hollywood though has pretty much the main song from the movie though.
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West 4th wrote:I saw this movie just before Christmas and it was great. PSB have two songs in the film. Always On My Mind is played at a pretty big scene in the movie. Frankie Goes To Hollywood though has pretty much the main song from the movie though.
What’s the second song?
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