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Potemkin CD does not match the movie. Deliberate?
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 10:44 am
by Greendrake
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Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 11:59 am
by Docoboy
The main difference I found was the (approx.) 5 mins missing at the end of track 2 (Men and Maggots).
When watching the movie with the soundtrack you need to press pause on your CD player at the end of track 2 until a certain point (I think it's about 13:45 mins into the film) and then press play again. Then if the plate in the film breaks in sync with the plate breaking noise on the soundtrack, you know you you're back in sync.
I am curious why they made things difficult like this. Hopefully it will be explained in the forthcoming issue of Literally.
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 1:30 pm
by Dipso
It was to stop bootlegged DVDs, presumably?
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 1:54 pm
by yves
I'm always watching from " From the Battleship " till " For Freedom " and put the Potemkin-DVD in my computer. With iTunes I play a nonstop mp3/wav file
and put the audio 4 minutes later of the DVD-time. Now you can watch perfect to the end.
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 4:42 pm
by Vince
Dipso wrote:It was to stop bootlegged DVDs, presumably?
So people ACTUALLY bootleg such a thing as Battleship Potemkin... AND enough find people to buy this bootlegs so as to make a profit???
Re: Potemkin CD does not match the movie. Deliberate?
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 4:45 pm
by Vicki
Greendrake wrote:The full length must be 73:20 - it could be easily fitted onto normal audio CD, but the bastards (who do you think - Parlophone or PSB themselves ?) decided to crop it, probably in order to make impossible to overdub it onto DVD!
I don't think you may call "bastards" someone no matter who they are only because they made a soundtrack shorter. So please do not insult people in such way when there's nothing terrible about their deeds.
It's just a way to promote a CD because the 9-minute "Men and maggots" on the CD would seem too boring to listeners who do not watch the movie at the same time. So I find nothing terrible about it. Hope the full version will be released together with the film someday.
Greendrake wrote:
This is not a Potemkin soundtrack. I dunno what is it.
The soundtrack released on CD doesn't at all have to be as long as it appeared in the film. Most of the soundtracks even have songs which never sound in the movie itself. So this is a soundtrack, no matter what you call it. Yes, it's not the original musical accompaniment to the movie but that doesn't make it worse or something.
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 5:32 pm
by Dipso
Vince wrote:Dipso wrote:It was to stop bootlegged DVDs, presumably?
So people ACTUALLY bootleg such a thing as Battleship Potemkin... AND enough find people to buy this bootlegs so as to make a profit???
Why else would the Pets deliberately cut the track though?
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 6:07 pm
by djx
so you can fit the copy control info onto the cd too !!!
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 6:42 pm
by Dipso
British EMI CDs are not copy controlled...
Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2005, 6:58 pm
by Janet Street-Porter
Vince wrote:So people ACTUALLY bootleg such a thing as Battleship Potemkin... AND enough find people to buy this bootlegs so as to make a profit???
The world is full of gay silent movie aficionados. Buster Keaton is gay slang for a particularly depraved sex act.
Posted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 7:58 pm
by djx
Dipso wrote:British EMI CDs are not copy controlled...
agreed but they aren't gonna make 2 different mixes of the soundtrack are they
Posted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 9:45 pm
by Decisional
Why is this something worth nagging about anyways? you ARE going to buy the DVD when it eventually comes out, won't you? then now. Stop bitching.
Posted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 6:25 am
by themgnt
Option wrote:Why is this something worth nagging about anyways? you ARE going to buy the DVD when it eventually comes out, won't you? then now. Stop bitching.
It's hardly unreasonable that people will want to watch the movie with the soundtrack together since, apart from a couple live performances, there hasn't been another way to see it "as intended". Besides, we have yet seen confirmation that there will be a DVD period.
Personally, I've reedited the soundtrack to fit and made a DVD myself.
Kinda pissed that after so much tweaking and stuff that as soon as I deleted everything I remembered the fan club DVD trailer which would have made a nice bonus feature. Doh!
-paul
Posted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 6:31 am
by Greendrake
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Posted: Sat 19 Nov 2005, 11:14 pm
by Oznerol
themgnt wrote:
Personally, I've reedited the soundtrack to fit and made a DVD myself.
Kinda pissed that after so much tweaking and stuff that as soon as I deleted everything I remembered the fan club DVD trailer which would have made a nice bonus feature. Doh!
-paul
haha..I also made this job time ago too, but including the fan-club footage as bonus material...so, we are in sync too
I must say that watching the film with the sound in sync, adds an incredible new dimension to both...the result is something more than watch the images & sound together...a DVD with a 5.1 surround mix of this MUST be released someday....