Ronald Regan died today (June 5) @ 93 years of age

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glennjridge wrote:I notice people from america and europe everynow and then talking bad about their own politicians, ie this person is a crook, greedy or a bad leader etc etc,at some point you have to stop talking about these american and european leaders as though they were some abberation dropped down from outerspace and realize these leaders come from the general public.
YOU are the politicians. they come from you.if a leader is corrupt, stop looking for excuses.this is the best YOU can do.

I stopped playing the blame game. it takes a certain personality to become a politician. just like it takes a certain kind to be a nurse, or policeman. a nurse say, is generally a caring person who wants to help others, a policeman is generally some macho testosterone tough guy,
and a politician generally likes power and money.

this is the best YOU can do. as essenicailly you are what keeps getting elected.the public votes these guys in and they are from the public.so there is no difference bewteen an american greedy politician and a european one. they are cut from the same cloth.its the nature of the beast.
Not true, I'm afraid.

Democracy is a specious term because the proles get one vote every four or five years, which is meant to sate their democratic urges. Even then the candidate with the most votes is not guaranteed victory.

Most of us now live in plutocracies where, for example, the leader can impose prohibitive tuition fees on students when his own son lives in a £250,000 flat while at university. His money having been earned in that most meretricious profession, the law.

Which is why I find the wailing over Reagan's death so sickening. If you were homeless in Reagan's America, would the senile old fool's humanity have been so apparent?

Roll on the day Thatcher enters Hades.

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Disregard the acting, and his place in the Whitehouse --- he was someones husband, some ones father and someones grandad. He was a fellow human, and therfore deserves some kind of respect in his passing over!
Agreed.......his politics sucked tho.
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#18 Post by raggatwin »

Lethe wrote:Drico is right. Look behind the idiot savant persona and you have the architect of Bush's America. Shame that Hinckley was such a bad shot.

Lethe I find the way that you both casually and regularly hurl insults which relate to autistic spectrum quite disturbing............ :(
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raggatwin wrote:
Lethe wrote:Drico is right. Look behind the idiot savant persona and you have the architect of Bush's America. Shame that Hinckley was such a bad shot.

Lethe I find the way that you both casually and regularly hurl insults which relate to autistic spectrum quite disturbing............ :(
Here comes another one.....

Just because Reagan was the poster boy for Alzheimer's does not entitle him to respect. Nor, I'm afraid, does his death.

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#20 Post by glennjridge »

Which is why I find the wailing over Reagan's death so sickening. If you were homeless in Reagan's America, would the senile old fool's humanity have been so apparent? lethe))))


there are homeless for every administration everywhere in the world.
if you go by your measuring tool, EVERYONES politicians would be worthy of fury.last time I checked, nowhere in america or europe or asia is homelessness "cured'. this is my point, once again, that politicians are the same evereyhwree. to say europes are better than america's or vice versa is the height of stupidity.politicans are cut from the same cloth.

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glennjridge wrote:Which is why I find the wailing over Reagan's death so sickening. If you were homeless in Reagan's America, would the senile old fool's humanity have been so apparent? lethe))))


there are homeless for every administration everywhere in the world.
if you go by your measuring tool, EVERYONES politicians would be worthy of fury.last time I checked, nowhere in america or europe or asia is homelessness "cured'. this is my point, once again, that politicians are the same evereyhwree. to say europes are better than america's or vice versa is the height of stupidity.politicans are cut from the same cloth.
Yes they are. I just don't think you can blame everybody else for that. In England, Thatcher was only able to reign for so long because she played on working class aspirational greed. Even though she despised them, they kept voting for her. But there were plenty of people who loathed her.

Politicians only need about 40% of the electorate to attain power. That 40% are to some extent culpable, but the other 60% aren't.

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#22 Post by raggatwin »

Here comes another one.....

Just because Reagan was the poster boy for Alzheimer's does not entitle him to respect. Nor, I'm afraid, does his death.
I'm not talking about Reagan in particular i' m pointing out the way you constantly refer to people being retards and so on.
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raggatwin wrote:
Here comes another one.....

Just because Reagan was the poster boy for Alzheimer's does not entitle him to respect. Nor, I'm afraid, does his death.
I'm not talking about Reagan in particular i' m pointing out the way you constantly refer to people being retards and so on.
It's only a word.

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It's only a word.
Yeah I suppose. It's a word like faggot queer shirtlifter shitepusher battyboy ninebob gingerbeer cracker paddy spick nigger paki.

Just a word it has no loaded meaning at all, it is not meant to cause hurt or offence, it's just a word..........

Idiot savant mmmn thats another nice term.
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Lethe wrote:
raggatwin wrote:
Here comes another one.....

Just because Reagan was the poster boy for Alzheimer's does not entitle him to respect. Nor, I'm afraid, does his death.
I'm not talking about Reagan in particular i' m pointing out the way you constantly refer to people being retards and so on.
It's only a word.
My mother had Alzheimer's, she died --- is she not entitled to some respect? NO she was not a politician, not famous -- just a simple nobody really! I reckon she has as much right to be thought of respectfully as Ronnie Reagan. IMO
Death is only a word too! As is RESPECT ---
I think this thread has walked off it's subject " That some one died yesterday" I don't recall the original comment mentioning his status pre - retirement!
:(

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define psb wrote:
Lethe wrote:
raggatwin wrote: I'm not talking about Reagan in particular i' m pointing out the way you constantly refer to people being retards and so on.
It's only a word.
My mother had Alzheimer's, she died --- is she not entitled to some respect? NO she was not a politician, not famous -- just a simple nobody really! I reckon she has as much right to be thought of respectfully as Ronnie Reagan. IMO
Death is only a word too! As is RESPECT ---
I think this thread has walked off it's subject " That some one died yesterday" I don't recall the original comment mentioning his status pre - retirement!
:(
My grandmother had Alzheimer's too.

So, do you mourn Hitler then? Or wear black on the anniversary of Pol Pot's departure from this mortal coil?

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No ! Lethe I don't , but I'd not DISS their surviving family members for rememberance of their relatives passing!

Especially today, the 60th commemoration /rememberance day of ALL nationalities who Fought upon the beaches of Normandy --- all those brilliant white headstones gleaming in the Sunlight in France, and many other countries of this world ---
Old soldiers who may not see the 70th D-Day memorial service! gathered to remember those who lay down their lives to make the world better. :?:

In the words of PSB : " Was it worth it?"

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My grandmother had Alzheimer's too.

So, do you mourn Hitler then? Or wear black on the anniversary of Pol Pot's departure from this mortal coil?
I'm no fan of Reagan's politics i was merely commenting on the casual way in which you use language. I have nothing more to say on the matter other than perhaps one day your life will be touched by autism or somesuch other condition and you will feel the hurt and pain caused by words such retard and idiot savunt (Autism) which you think are just words.
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define psb wrote:No ! Lethe I don't , but I'd not DISS their surviving family members for rememberance of their relatives passing!

Especially today, the 60th commemoration /rememberance day of ALL nationalities who Fought upon the beaches of Normandy --- all those brilliant white headstones gleaming in the Sunlight in France, and many other countries of this world ---
Old soldiers who may not see the 70th D-Day memorial service! gathered to remember those who lay down their lives to make the world better. :?:

In the words of PSB : " Was it worth it?"
Yeah, it was worth it. These men and women deserve every respect. Very brave people.

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#30 Post by GalataPSB »

He was a good actor! That`s all!

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